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Testing some stuff I saw in Japan

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#1 ·
Hi! I've been experimenting with the Japanese method of hedgehog keeping for the past few months and I haven't found anything like this on here yet so I thought I'd share my findings!

Why Japanese?
This past summer I took a trip to Tokyo and happened to stop by Harry's Hedgehog Cafe. I was really impressed with the animals there! They were the healthiest, happiest, most outgoing and friendly hedgehogs I've ever met. Both the babies and the adult hogs were in tip-top hedgehoggy shape. So I asked some questions, bought some of their hedgehog supplies, and took all of what I considered to be the most promising ideas back to my hedgehog Tiffany in the states to give them a try.

(Side note: We need hedgehog cafes in the US as this is undoubtedly THE BEST way to adopt a hedgehog. All the babies are super well-socialized because they're held by different customers every day. If you come in and fall in love with a hedgie, you can buy it right then and shop assistants are there to tell you everything you need to know about caring for it and to make sure you've bought all the right supplies--which they sell in-shop. The hedgehogs are also kept on a very careful schedule so they have ample time to rest and play each day. Needless to say, I was super impressed.)

Okay, back to it!

Coarsly ground walnut shell bedding:
https://www.amazon.com/Kaytee-Walnu.../dp/B00BUFRZU2/ref=pd_sbs_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y9PMPMRCP98QZZE1V4Q6

Intro:
I'd had Tiffany on a complex sort of layered pee-pad and fleece bedding since I got him (~3 years), which he always managed to completely soil in two days, smelled awful, and I had to tape down the edges of the top layer because he liked to burrow underneath it all and poop on the coroplast at the bottom of his cage. In Japan, they keep their hedgies on a coarsly ground walnut shell substrate. I bought a bag of it to try out.

Results:
I was initially a bit worried about dust and mites, but decided to try the stuff right out of the bag out of sheer curiosity. I ordered several different lots of crushed walnut from amazon, and although I haven't found any quite as coarse as what I got from Japan, I hold onto the hope that one day I will find that perfect grind once more. The stuff for reptiles is almost always too fine, but some of the polishing media is good and the bird beddings tend to be okay.

Pro: Tiffany LOVES this bedding. He digs around in it, makes little holes to lie in, and even pulls it into his snuggle sack to nap (and masturbate) on.

Pro:I would say there is no dust, but I doubt that can be true, so I will say there is minimal dust. I have had no problems with mites, either, though I would still recommend freezing/baking any of this substrate you get from the USA.

Pro:This has no noticeable smell and I spot clean it with a litter scooper, doing full changes every 2-3 weeks.

Con: If you have a male hedgehog that enjoys "boy time" as much as my son, Tiffany, the combination of walnut shells and hedgehog goo form a very tough cement when dry, and can be pretty difficult to clean off in the bath. Luckily, Tiffany enjoys a long soak, so I suppose no harm no foul.

The Water Tank:

https://www.amazon.com/Dahey-Drinki...kmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510293790&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=hedgehog+ceramic+water+tank

Intro:
Tiffany, like many other hedgehogs, likes to poop in his water dish. I'd previously been using a wide, low-lipped ramekin as it held sufficient water for one night and he couldn't knock it over, but he would ALWAYS poo in it. At the hedgehog cafe, the hedgehogs drink out of small, ceramic water tanks. They holds a lot of water, but the area the hedgies drink out of is only about the size of a quarter. They can't knock it down or poo in it!

Results:
My children, THIS is the answer to the hedgehog watering struggle.
Pro: It stays full for DAYS (though I refill it every night)

Pro: The poopers can't poop in it

Pro: They can't seem to stick their poopy paws in it, either

Pro: Even my Very Strong Boy TM can't knock it over

Pro: It will not poke your hedgehog's eyes out (I see you, pet water bottles)

Con: It's a little bit hard to clean. I recommend scrubbing it with a toothbrush as needed and then boiling the whole thing like once a month.

So there we are. Thoughts? Opinions? I'm going to keep with the walnut bedding and water tank for the foreseeable future as they've made my hedgehog maintenance routine SO much easier!

Here's amazon links to similar products:
Litter scooper:
https://www.amazon.com/Zilla-Reptil...000OX0NQY/ref=pd_bxgy_199_img_2_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=324BW3M325TFKEAND5DS

Walnut shells (Bird)
https://www.amazon.com/Kaytee-Walnu.../dp/B00BUFRZU2/ref=pd_sbs_86_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y9PMPMRCP98QZZE1V4Q6

Walnut shells (Blast media)
https://www.amazon.com/Walnut-Shell...1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1510294368&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=walnut+media+coarse

Weramic water tank
https://www.amazon.com/Dahey-Drinki...kmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510293790&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=hedgehog+ceramic+water+tank
 
#2 ·
Hi, I'm sorry to burst your bubble. Japanese hedgehog care is widely regarded as one of the worst - and for good reason. The enclosures are too small, wire wheels are often used and the animals are forced to sleep out in the open without any cover. This means they're used to sleeping out in the open and being unprotected, but it's extremely cruel to a burrowing nocturnal prey animal.
Of course this isn't always the case in Japan, but the general care standards are low and the hedgehog cafe is a good example of this.
The hedgehog cafe is a terrible place. Everyone who knows the basics of hedgehog behaviour and hedgehog care will see why. It is essentially a backyard breeder pet shop with the cafe as a cover: they sell hedgehogs and make money by letting people cuddle them in the cafe. The hedgehogs are kept in tiny enclosures with no cover, they are kept with multiple animals in one enclosure, the place is extremely noisy and the animals are handled a lot during the day while they should be asleep (even if they are on a schedule, everything else in the cafe is worse enough already). On top of that, one of their "stars" is a hedgehog they've overfed so much it has become morbidly obese and now they are exploiting it's fatness as "cute".
It borders on animal cruelty.

I'm sorry to tell you this as you're obviously quite positive about the place, but once you look a bit further than just the cute cuddly hedgehogs you'll see why a hedgehog cafe is a horrible idea.

If you are interested in a more natural environment for your hedgehog which is actually hedgehog friendly (by providing enough room and allowing them to display natural behaviour) may I suggest the links in my signature. You can also find some information about it here on the forum.
You can use walnut shells, soil, sand etc. as bedding, I'm personally not a huge fan of walnut shells and prefer a soil/sand mix.
 
#4 ·
I definitely agree that some of the things I saw in the cafe were definitely NOT good: they had wire wheels, seemed to be feeding mazuri's insectivore diet, and had pretty bright lighting, for example. But the cages, though on the smaller side, I think were okay. I keep my hedgehog in a BIG 2x3 C&C monster, of course, but the cafe seemed to be using 50 gallon long aquarium-type housing. The size really didn't seem too bad, and they were kept sparklingly clean, though. Don't get me wrong: I'd never reccomend this type of housing, but for small hedgehogs living there temporarily, it seemed okay. There were also lots of hides in these "rest" cages, and more rest cages off sight (and hopefully in a less noisy area.) Still, though, the animals I saw looked REALLY good. Healthy poops, nice, round-but-not-fat bodies, and very friendly personality. I think getting a hedgehog that's been so well-socialized early in life would make a new-owner's experience much easier, though, which is why I think that (assuming healthy genetics) the hedgehog cafe functions well as a specialty pet shop. I took from the cafe just two things I thought might be worth trying, and they've been pretty good, thus far, but I am glad you brought up the negative aspects of Japanese hedgehog cafes, since, as you said, there are definitely a few things they're doing way wrong.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Completely agreed with Draenog. I hate the idea of hedgehog cafes (and all of Japan's animal cafes in general - the only ones that seem like an okay idea at all are cat/dog cafes).

I know you haven't had an issue yet, but I'm honestly really concerned by what you described with the walnut bedding. There are multiple cases of male hedgehogs getting small particle bedding caught in their penile sheath that causes irritation & injury - sometimes even causing the hedgehog to mutilate their own genitals. With the fact that he's masturbating in the bedding & getting it clumped & stuck like you described, I'm really, really anxious that it'll lead to a problem like this for your boy. I really recommend checking out the links Draenog mentioned for bedding alternatives that will be less likely to cause something like that.

The water tank idea does look like a really nice one though, provided someone can keep up with the cleaning! :) There are similar concepts for birds that might be other possibilities & may be easier to keep clean.
 
#5 ·
Completely agreed with Draenog. I hate the idea of hedgehog cafes (and all of Japan's animal cafes in general - the only ones that seem like an okay idea at all are cat/dog cafes).

I know you haven't had an issue yet, but I'm honestly really concerned by what you described with the walnut bedding. There are multiple cases of male hedgehogs getting small particle bedding caught in their penile sheath that causes irritation & injury - sometimes even causing the hedgehog to mutilate their own genitals. With the fact that he's masturbating in the bedding & getting it clumped & stuck like you described, I'm really, really anxious that it'll lead to a problem like this for your boy. I really recommend checking out the links Draenog mentioned for bedding alternatives that will be less likely to cause something like that.

The water tank idea does look like a really nice one though, provided someone can keep up with the cleaning! :) There are similar concepts for birds that might be other possibilities & may be easier to keep clean.
Thank you for bringing this up, as I really hadn't considered it doing any harm besides being annoying. As of yet, he hasn't really had any clumped in or around his sheath-- it's usually in his armpit or to the side of "the business". I'm going to try using the walnut shell in just half of his cage (the half with the wheel and food) and leaving the side he sleeps in as fleece-bottomed. If he's able to pull the walnut into the snuggle sack (where he likes to masturbate) then I'll get rid of it altogether, I think.