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hi okay here are some pictures of lilly.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/r ... dkevin.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/r ... incage.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/r ... nwheel.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/r ... oclimb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/r ... hskunk.jpg
she is about nine months old.
she just had two babies and the daddy was either a pale apricot or apricot(red eyes of course).
does anyone know what color lilly is?
and anyone have any ideas about what the babies most likely will look like? (eyes, quills, mask) :shock: :geek: :)

THANKS EVERYONE :)
 

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Tehy are dark pics, so i think algerian chocolate chip pinto maybe. Possible algerian cahrcoal pinto or algerian silver pinto. those pics are hard to tell for me.
 

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Depending on the all the other generations, you could have just about any color babies, including albino. Most likely you will get browns, maybe some that are pinto.
 

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i am going to get clearer pictures if her soon and post them because everyone has told me different colors. and we really want a definite answer! :D
 

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rachelandkevin said:
i am going to get clearer pictures if her soon and post them because everyone has told me different colors. and we really want a definite answer! :D
Actually no. Lg didn't use the main technical terms. Algerian choc. chip is :alg. chocolate snowflake. alg, gray snowflake is: alg. charcoal. (you can just add pinto to the end of all those in ur mind, cuz pinto is X colour, with some no- pigment spots (plain white)
so we siad the same things.
 

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there is no alg. silver! oops! but u may have a ALGERIAN DARK GREY SNOWFLAKE (pinto)! no pic is there in the coulour guide, so if u hav it, bryan will ask u if he can use a pic! u'll be a star! (not really a star at all but still)... as long as u can get a non-pinto spot-showing pic. :eek:
 

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im really sorry but im getting incredibly confused. can someone tell me what exactly algerian means and what snowflake means? :| :geek:

thank you for all your help! and putting up with my dumb questions
 

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I am no color expert but if you look under the color section on the site where all the information it will give you a better understanding. Basically there are 2 types for our African HH. One is white bellied and won't have much of a mask and the other is algerian and will have a strong mask. (think of it as badger masks in different shades and colors). Snowflake means that they have more quills that have no banding (color) then ones that are banded. The non- banded ones will be around the 70% area. Pinto means they have no color in an area, on skin or quills. Hopefully someone better will come on but I do believe I have it mostly right. I would still recommend looking at the info on color since Bryan is the one who created the color scale for the IHA and judges at shows so he will be your best bet. One way or another she sure is a beautiful little girl. Congratulations!
 

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our pet hedgehogs come form teh cross breed of 2-3 different hedgehogs. We know that they are a cross breed between 4 toed (white bellied) hedgehogs and Algerian hedgehogs.

So the first thing to determine is the species of hedgehog that is predominant in your specific african pygmy hedgehog. Algerians often have darker and fuller masks than there white bellied counterparts, and some colors are different slightly. I don't really know much about the difference, just that there is one.

After you determine the species, you then determine the color of the hedgehog (by skin color, quill color, mask color, nose color, belly mottling ect ect. there is a writeup by bryan somewhere on the HHC main site.)

Once you ahve the color of your hedgehog you then determine the modifiers.
If between 20-80% of the quills are white you have a snowflake.
If you have patched with no pigmentation then it is a pinto.

There are more modifiers, but those are the ones that apply to you.

(NOTE: i am prolly wrong as i am recalling all of this from memory, but i did transcribe it from somewhere at some point)
 

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While there are a mix of two prominently colored hedgehogs they will retain the COLOR PATTERN of only one. So if your hedgie is say Algerian colored he/she is still a mix of breeds but has the color pattern of Algerian. The big differences are Algerian's have a larger more pronounced mask, their skin will have a darker purplish tint to it, their colors are darker and richer, and the skin is much more mottled. So if you put a White Bellied chocolate and an Algerian chocolate side by side the Algerian will appear darker. There are other differences as well. These differences are noticeable but are not used in competitive shows. They are : the White Bellied is also known as the "Four-Toed". I have an Algerian colored hedgie who has skinny legs and only four front toes. She has no dew claws. I also have another Algerian colored one whose legs are thicker and she has five toes or four toes and dew claws. Pure Algerians also get much bigger than White Bellies. So you may end up with a White Bellied colored hedgehog who is perfectly healthy at 1000 grams.
 
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