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Not sure if this is the right category to post under; but anyway.
So last night I let my hedgie Chester run around the kitchen and explore and kept an eye on what he was getting into. I went to answer my phone and when I came back I found Chester biting on one of my Chihuahua's raw hides. He would bite it a little and then self-annoint and keep doing that. I think he was just attracted to where my dog has been chewing and likes the smell or something. So the point is, I was wondering if it was safe for him to be doing that as long as he wasn't swallowing any of it. Sorry if there's already a post related to raw hides. And my bad if it is totally harmful, that's the whole reason I am asking. Thanks. :?
 

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Ok, thanks so much for the posts even though I look like an idiot now :oops: Anyways, I will keep them away from Chester but I have always given raw hides to my dogs and noticed nothing different so I won't change that, lol.
 

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dorasdaddy said:
http://millennium-ark.net/News_Files/INFO_Files/rawhide.chew.warning.html

I understand that you have never had problems, but if there is a risk as severe as this, why take it?...especially when there are so many treats out there that are much beter for them
I have yet to see what exactly is wrong with rawhide for dogs (or hedgehogs, for that matter). Boiling something in bleach will sterilize it. Assuming there is no residual bleach on it, this is the safest disinfectant known to man. You wash your laundry in it and then wrap your babies in the swaddling cloiths, don't you? This has been done for centuries.

WHat exactly is the danger in rawhide for dogs?
 

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I believe the concern for dogs was if they tore off a piece of rawhide and swallowed it, it could damage stomach or intestines.
With hedgehogs, the danger would be in either swallowing some of it, or chipping/breaking teeth on it, because it's so hard.
 

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vkanev1 said:
I have yet to see what exactly is wrong with rawhide for dogs (or hedgehogs, for that matter). Boiling something in bleach will sterilize it. Assuming there is no residual bleach on it, this is the safest disinfectant known to man. You wash your laundry in it and then wrap your babies in the swaddling cloiths, don't you? This has been done for centuries.

WHat exactly is the danger in rawhide for dogs?
Well, first of all, you can't boil in bleach. Bleach explodes if heated. And "assuming" there is no residue is just that, an assumption. Assumptions aren't facts. Bleach used for laundry is 1 cup per washload, which is diluted and then rinsed twice. And I do NOT and have not EVER bleached my babies clothes, my grandbaby's clothes or my animals textiles.

Since bleach is rendered inert by sunlight, line dried clothing is fine, which would account for the safety of it years ago but we no longer line dry our clothes.

The issue behind rawhides is multifaceted. First of all, the rawhide is exactly that. Raw animal hide. From mostly dead or diseased animals. If it's not from a US source, it's likely contaminated with chlorine, arsenic and heavy metals. Safer if it's from the US but still bleached and can still contain chlorine.

In addition, chewed wet rawhide is a breeding ground for bacteria. Since rawhides get chewed, left, chewed, left etc, the bacteria contaminates the rawhide, the floor, the entire house. And it can make the dog ill b/c of it, as well as make the family ill from the bacteria.

Lastly, rawhide is a choking/digestive hazard. Dogs can soften a long strip of rawhide and choke to death trying to swallow it. If they do swallow it, it can cause a blockage in the gut.

You, of course, are free to give your animals dangerous things. Your choice. But don't try to make it ok for everyone because it isn't. It's wrong, it's potentially deadly and it's not necessary for the dog's wellbeing, much less a hedgehogs.
 

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I was just asking for a clear explanation - without fearmongering...I have no dogs currently(although my family raised huskies for years) and have never given my hedgie rawhide, I just thought that someone asking about giving their hedgie rawhide should get more than a "OH MY GOD - YOU"RE GOING TO KILL HIM AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO!" answer. No need to get nasty!
 

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vkanev1 said:
I was just asking for a clear explanation - without fearmongering...I have no dogs currently(although my family raised huskies for years) and have never given my hedgie rawhide, I just thought that someone asking about giving their hedgie rawhide should get more than a "OH MY GOD - YOU"RE GOING TO KILL HIM AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO!" answer. No need to get nasty!
Hedgemom has a way of making people mad :lol:
but she is right on this one as she is alot/most of the time :D
No need for anyone on here to get NASTY :lol:
 

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vkanev1 said:
I just thought that someone asking about giving their hedgie rawhide should get more than a "OH MY GOD - YOU"RE GOING TO KILL HIM AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO!" answer. No need to get nasty!
....... Every "No it's not good for them" answer was provided with examples of it being bad, or others having experience with it being bad, as well as reasons why. Everything seemed to be well explained, along with online article with references to where the information came from. Straight from the article which Dora'sdaddy gave "The primary problem is bacteria in rawhides which can cause severe gastrointestinal upset. Seismo and Taco were diagnosed with acute pancreatitis" And that's a vet diagnostic. I'm not understanding where you got the whole "OH MY GOD - YOU"RE GOING TO KILL HIM AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO!" part without any explanations as to why.

Side note... Pancreatitis sucks. My dog had it once, and he lost 20lbs in a week, luckily, it was his winter fat, and he got better with the meds and light food. It put him off eating canned food though :lol: He didn't like the powder stuff the vet gave us to put into the food, something similar to bene-bac. Poor pup, he was so depressed, the other 2 couldn't cheer him up.

No one was being nasty, since pancreatitis meant nothing to you, HedgeMom just explained things another way, she also said you're more then welcome to your own opinion on what to do with your own animals. Everyone provided reasons and facts. I think you got your clear explanation, even though most of it was already provided if the links and info given were read. ^_^

But at least you don't give your animals rawhides, so you don't have to worry about any of this happening with your animals. ^_^
 

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vkanev1 said:
You wash your laundry in it and then wrap your babies in the swaddling cloiths, don't you? This has been done for centuries.
Personnally I wouldn't, I don' even use it on my clothes anyway, it wrorn them and get white yellow overtime. And when I have to use bleach to disinfect, it was a non porrus meterial (metal) and I rinsed about 10 times.
 

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vkanev1 said:
I was just asking for a clear explanation - without fearmongering...I have no dogs currently(although my family raised huskies for years) and have never given my hedgie rawhide, I just thought that someone asking about giving their hedgie rawhide should get more than a "OH MY GOD - YOU"RE GOING TO KILL HIM AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, TOO!" answer. No need to get nasty!
It's not fearmongering because I used facts. And it's perfectly fine for you to give harmful things to your animals. I acknowledged your right as their owner to do what you want, which is what you said "I do it, it's FINE and you don't know what you're talking about".

I guess the mean part is where I said you can't get away with giving people bad advice like it's ok. So, if it's mean to be correct, then so be it.

If you're feeling guilty for doing something dangerous, that's your problem. If OMG UR SO MEANZ!!!! makes you feel better, then c'est la vie.
 
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