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tall enough so the hedgehog cant climb out if he/she were to get up on their back legs. that play pen looks just big enough for a baby to sit in, and is kind of small for a hedgehog to run around in imo.

I just saved myself the trouble and made my own playpen from boxes, it allows much more room to roam. I posted it in the diy section I believe. although the sides were a bit too short, thankfully he never escaped.

From now on, I will just expand his cage by buying more storage cube sets
 

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i just have to use something solid enough that my other animals cant just go strait in and my cats cant just jump over and my potbellied pig when he was a baby had a Playpen/kennel made out of a baby play pen and he was bigger than a guinny pig when we got him and it gave him a ton of space and he used it till he got scared enough by our alarm one day while we were gone and found out he could jump out so should i go with 12 in or 18 in tall coroplast
 

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12 should be tall enough. but better not take my word for it because hedgies have this weird ability of stretching out, becoming longer.

Anyway, that playpen is meant for babies who can't walk and will sit in one spot. It won't allow enough room for the hedgie to really feel free and roam on foot.

A playpen for a hedgie should be more something like this imo
 

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so what do you think the minimum size for a play pen should be for a hedgie then cause i thought the just had to be atleast the same size as the cage and the cage the breeder is gonna be sending home with the girl i get is a 3 ft x 1.5 ft Tub
 

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long enough to do a decent sprint and big enough to put the wheel, food, hiding spot, toys, anything else.

that tub is really small. maybe it's okay for the first little while but will become very small , very fast.
 

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i thought tubs had to just be atleast 4ft squared which it is
i cant do a c and c cage because of other animals
would a christmas tree tub be better and do they make them in clear
the main time she would be in the playpen would be when im cleaning her tub
 

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I'm pretty sure it was 4ft of space after wheel, igloo, food/drink all have been placed. Hedgehogs are active animals, they wanna run you know.

You can look at some cage ideas in the housing section.

I'm sure you could always cat proof a C&C cage with some imagination.

perhaps something like
could work
 

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What are the animals gonna be doing? Is the potbellied pig gonna ram the hedgehog's cage? lol.. just asking to see how much animal proofing needs to be done here.

Lets say you have a C&C cage..
For cats and dogs, I'd just use coroplast walls Zip tied to the grids so they can't reach in with their paws inside the cage, and use a hard top of some sort, possibly a wooden one, with precise cutouts for che's and lighting.

The whole cage structure would have to be somewhere where it can't just fall, so either legs built out of the same storage cubes, ziptied into a structure, or some other solution, but def not somewhere where it can just be tipped over and fall.

Good luck with any cage building you do, I'll be happy to give my opinion on it. Good news is that at the beginning they sleep a lot so you have some time to come up with a good cage idea.
 

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hes not aloud in my room ofter but if he smells the food or decides he likes the smell of hedgie poo/litter he would try to beat the cage up but ya im not getting a hedgehog til late march or in april could i tun the play pen into a cage for it if i put coroplast on all sides plus probably the bottom, made a second level in there and made a top/cover out of coroplast and metal mesh or wood and metal mesh and used the tote she will be coming with to store things for her and to keep her in while cleaning her cage
 

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I see a couple issues with it.
Cleaning can be a pain. Like big pain.
The mat on the bottom is basically a soft mat on a board. If one of your other animals felt so inclined they could easily push it up from the bottom.
Also you might have an issue because of the soft bottom causing stability problems. Could be difficult to get good footing.
 

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Alright, a couple things here...

First, the cage. The size is fine - larger is always better, but it does meet the minimum size requirements in the US (other countries have different standards). The hedgehog's safety is the first concern when deciding on a cage - if you have other animals, then you definitely want the cage to be safe. A C&C is NOT an appropriate choice if you're looking for an animal-proof enclosure. Please do not use one for your hedgehog, especially with the pig in the house. They're not sturdy enough to stand up to a determined pig or dog wanting to get inside.

In my opinion, the pack'n'play would be difficult to use for a cage. I've had to reach into those before and it's a pain. Granted, I'm short & have short arms...still a pain. I wouldn't want to reach into one multiple times a day to try & lift out food/water dishes, a hedgehog, etc. I would really suggest sticking with the storage tote cage, and make sure the top is completely secure. The only alternative I would suggest, especially with the pig in the house, is a Critter or Ferret Nation cage, which are very sturdy & safe. They're expensive, but they're well worth it.

Also, they do make Christmas tree tubs in clear, and I've seen a few reptile people getting them recently on Tumblr. I know LarryT used them for cages as well, not sure if he still does. Check at home improvement stores like Home Depot, they may carry them.

Back to the playpen thing, if you're only planning to use it to keep your hedgehog in while cleaning the main enclosure, I wouldn't use a playpen at all, especially if the other animals are still a concern. Most playpens I can think of wouldn't be particularly sturdy against the other animals. You need a hard-sided cat/dog carrier in order to travel with your hedgehog anyway, so I would just use that to put them in while you're cleaning the enclosure.
 
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