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you could just delete his/her account...
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i understand that. just what you said before... which you just deleted... was unnecessary, in my opinion.
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yeah, dont think im defending that behaviour or anything, but i just felt a slight twinge of unecessary rudeness in there. thats all 
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Ditto LarryT and Nikki.
Also, we don't just delete accounts because people feel like not taking the correct advice.
Also, we don't just delete accounts because people feel like not taking the correct advice.
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She may never even see any of these comments, because she's expecting for her account to be deleted, however I know nothing about how deleting accounts goes on. :roll:
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If you are reading this, please heat the room properly. Maisy went into hibernation at 73 degrees and I was so close to losing her. It is a terrible thing to go through almost feeling her dying in my hands. I had to stay up with her all night and then pay a lot of money in vet visits to make sure she was okay. Yes it may cost more to buy a space heater, but it is better than losing your little hedgie. I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm sure you want the best for her, but listen to everyone's advice. There are some very knowledgeable, amazing hedgehog owners on here that are just trying to help
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·I have read everybodies comment. The reason I post on different sites/forums is that i want different peoples opinions on things. Many people may be on website but not the rest and I apologize for those who are on both/all and have to read my questions over again.
I have had some nice people, but mostly some people who are very...hmm whats the word i'm looking for. Their not mean, but have a very very strong opinion on things and not afraid to speak their minds.
I have read a lot of answers I get but sometimes I don't agree with everything everybody says. Just people one person puts the info doesn't mean it's the correct answer... it could just be their opinion. Everybody and everything is different in their own way.
I want to take this time, to just say one more thing.
I am sorry to double posting on many forums/groups. I am starting off fresh and won't start a new post until i have read other posts. But i will post answers / questions in other posts where/when need be.
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Just to let everybody know, the breeder that I was doing business with. I am not doing business with her any more and got my refund back. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with her or anything, it just didn't work out...just like everything else in my lousy life.
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I have had some nice people, but mostly some people who are very...hmm whats the word i'm looking for. Their not mean, but have a very very strong opinion on things and not afraid to speak their minds.
I have read a lot of answers I get but sometimes I don't agree with everything everybody says. Just people one person puts the info doesn't mean it's the correct answer... it could just be their opinion. Everybody and everything is different in their own way.
I want to take this time, to just say one more thing.
I am sorry to double posting on many forums/groups. I am starting off fresh and won't start a new post until i have read other posts. But i will post answers / questions in other posts where/when need be.
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Just to let everybody know, the breeder that I was doing business with. I am not doing business with her any more and got my refund back. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with her or anything, it just didn't work out...just like everything else in my lousy life.
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Sorry you are having a lousy time right now but life is like a rollercoaster sometimes so if you are down you can look forward to the up
I know how disappointing it can be when you are looking forward to getting something at a certain time but everything happens for a reason and it may be that there is another hedgie you are meant to get. Plus you will have the extra time until then to get all the details ironed out and to pick up some more things you will need.
My intentions when I post is never to be mean but to share the information I have from researching and from the experiences I've had with my own hedgehog so that it might help someone else.
I know how disappointing it can be when you are looking forward to getting something at a certain time but everything happens for a reason and it may be that there is another hedgie you are meant to get. Plus you will have the extra time until then to get all the details ironed out and to pick up some more things you will need.
My intentions when I post is never to be mean but to share the information I have from researching and from the experiences I've had with my own hedgehog so that it might help someone else.
Nobody has a problem with you posting the same thing to different forums and lists. There is nothing wrong with doing that and although many of the same people are on all forums, there are ones that are only on one. The annoying thing is that you make multiple threads asking the same question. You've done this on every forum and list and then wonder why people quit replying to you. Nobody started out being mean, you brought that on yourself by your immature behaviour. Yes, people do have strong opinions when it comes to the welfare of these precious little ones. Some things such as bedding are personal preference but others such as heating is life threatening if not followed. We are here to help but you need to help yourself as well by following forum rules and etiquette and act with some maturity.
I'm glad you have decided to stay.
I'm glad you have decided to stay.
One other thing to remember is that when some of us seem adamant that things need to be done a certain way its because we have been around for years, seen it done otherwise and seen hedgehogs die from unnecessary risks. We talk from experience.
Some hedgehogs may do fine at temperatures of 68 or 69. The problem is you are taking a risk. A single hibernation attempt can cause a hedgehog to become ill.
Let me share with you an experience, while I don't remember each and every detail I do remember the situation and the outcome well. About 8 or so years ago, I was in the old CnQ chat room when a new person joined in frantically because her hedgehog was cold, stiff and unresponsive (seemed to happen a lot back then). I asked if she was keeping the hedgehog at 72. She replied no. I talked to her for a long time that evening until the hedgehog woke back up, was eating and walking normally again. A few days to a week later she emailed me that the hedgehog was not eating. A long story short, the hedgehog developed a URI, which quickly turned into pneumonia and later died. The vet felt that the hibernation attempt lowered the immune system, letting the URI take hold, to run rampant and ultimately causing its death.
Even if you catch your hedgehog attempting to hibernate, illness can show up later from it. It has been our experience that it is best to not even take a risk in this area.
I wish you the best with your hedgehog, but please do understand where some of us are coming from. We have been there, done that, and suffered the heart ache from it.
Some hedgehogs may do fine at temperatures of 68 or 69. The problem is you are taking a risk. A single hibernation attempt can cause a hedgehog to become ill.
Let me share with you an experience, while I don't remember each and every detail I do remember the situation and the outcome well. About 8 or so years ago, I was in the old CnQ chat room when a new person joined in frantically because her hedgehog was cold, stiff and unresponsive (seemed to happen a lot back then). I asked if she was keeping the hedgehog at 72. She replied no. I talked to her for a long time that evening until the hedgehog woke back up, was eating and walking normally again. A few days to a week later she emailed me that the hedgehog was not eating. A long story short, the hedgehog developed a URI, which quickly turned into pneumonia and later died. The vet felt that the hibernation attempt lowered the immune system, letting the URI take hold, to run rampant and ultimately causing its death.
Even if you catch your hedgehog attempting to hibernate, illness can show up later from it. It has been our experience that it is best to not even take a risk in this area.
I wish you the best with your hedgehog, but please do understand where some of us are coming from. We have been there, done that, and suffered the heart ache from it.
Kalandra is totally right. Those of us who have been around for a while have heard far to often the results of hedgies not being warm enough.
A few years ago I got an email from someone a few hours away wanting to buy some bedding for their new baby. This baby came from a breeder, also a few hours away, but he is one of those breeders who states his hedgehogs don't require an alternate heat source. I didn't hear back from this person for a couple of days and when I did it was a heartbreaking storey. The first day the baby was just fine. The next day baby was wobbly on it's feet and didn't seem quite right. The following day they found it in a curled up ball dead. Chances are good the poor little thing wasn't really dead but hibernating but because this so called breeder had told the new owners his hedgehogs didn't require heating, the person didn't believe me. This was not the only person who has purchased from that breeder who ended up with their new hedgehog attempting hibernation.
A few years ago I got an email from someone a few hours away wanting to buy some bedding for their new baby. This baby came from a breeder, also a few hours away, but he is one of those breeders who states his hedgehogs don't require an alternate heat source. I didn't hear back from this person for a couple of days and when I did it was a heartbreaking storey. The first day the baby was just fine. The next day baby was wobbly on it's feet and didn't seem quite right. The following day they found it in a curled up ball dead. Chances are good the poor little thing wasn't really dead but hibernating but because this so called breeder had told the new owners his hedgehogs didn't require heating, the person didn't believe me. This was not the only person who has purchased from that breeder who ended up with their new hedgehog attempting hibernation.
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