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I am driving about an hour and 45 minutes away on november 29th to get my baby hedgie :)

But I'm concerned. Should I get him a cat carrier or a soft plush carrier? And what should I put in it to ensure him to stay warm? He's not going to roll around in the carrier is he??!!??!? D:

I'm just so anxious and worried about bringing him home :/ I just want my baby to be safe <3
 

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You should have your hedgie in a hard sided cat carrier and have it seat-belted in the vehicle...put some fleece blankets in the carrier and if its cold out you can use some hand warmers or hot packs to keep him warm..just make sure they are well wrapped up too.
 

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We got my female early July, and we just got a rather large box, and I put a fleece blanket inside. Generally, she was so nervous, and unsure what was going on, she stayed underneath the fleece. This is probably all you need, if you're not going to leave it in the car. Depending on where you live, you might want to have the heater on and stuff.
 

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the problem with using a box is that if you're in an accident..or even if you have to stop fast..the box is going to go flying and your hedgie along with it. the same with that other carrier. Also if your in an accident and are hurt, unconcious etc, no one will know there was a hedgehog in the vehicle and it would probably be left behind. Emergency personnel are trained to look for conventional pet carriers, the plastic hard sided ones, and those carriers are no where near as likey to be thrown in an accident if its buckled in. You would put a human baby in a box in a car, why take the chance with your four-legged baby? its just a dangerous for them.
 

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Thanks everyone :) I really appreciate the help :) I want my baby to be as safe as can be and getting help from you guys is wonderful :)

<3<3<3<3
 

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Well, there are roughly six million car accidents a year, with over 320 million people living in the country, only which 42,000 a year are serious, in which there were fatalities. You're talking about a 0.0119% chance.

If the distance isn't that far, and you're driving during the day, then why not? People can, and will always go on about "what if".
 

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When it comes to a hedgehog it is better safe than sorry. Many accidents happen within 1 mile of the home, so the "isn't that far" method isn't really logical. It's better to plan for "what if" than to deal with the loss of a pet later--the old "one ounce of prevention saves a pound of heartache" deal. If you have the hedgie in a box or a soft carrier and you DO get into an accident, one that you absolutely cannot see coming like someone t-boning you at a stoplight and you can't avoid even though it's daytime, the hedgie can go flying across the car and be killed, or get out and get lost--whereas if you had them in a hardsided carrier with piles of fleece in the bottom that wouldn't be an issue. It may be a slight chance, but there is that chance. It is better to plan for the "what if" and hope it doesn't happen than to have it happen and not be prepared.

One other reason for a hard-sided carrier is that emergency personnel are trained to look for those carriers, as Nikki said. Otherwise your hedgie might be left freezing at the scene of an accident during winter, or have a heat stroke for the same reason in summer.

A hard-sided carrier runs about $15-20 at Wal-mart and will last the lifetime of your hedgie, and likely the lifespan of any future hedgies you have. A small contribution to give a beloved pet a fighting shot in the case of a "what if" does not cost that much, especially when most people spent about $200 to get their hedgehog in the first place. If you can't afford to buy a $20 carrier, how will you afford vet bills, etc in the future? Of course, can't afford and don't want to are two different things...but how could you not want to when the well-being of a treasured pet is at stake? Most of hedgehog ownership is about prevention--preventing falls, hairs around legs, diet troubles, etc. This is just one more prevention step to keep our companions safe and as healthy as possible.

It's up to you what carrier you use, but there's a reason seasoned hedgehog owners recommend hard-sided ones.

Pixiedreamer, for a 2 hour drive, you definitely need a hard-sided carrier. Any number of things could happen between there and home. Be sure not to put the heat from the vents directly onto the cage--it can become too hot--and use the handwarmers and a few layers of fleece in the carrier to keep your little guy warm and toasty. Warm the car up for a few minutes before you take him out to it, and cover the carrier with a blanket before taking it outside. It's also a good idea to get a thermometer to put in the cage to ensure it's not too hot or cold in there.
 

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Zalea, thanks :) I will take that all in mind. I am defiently the type to be safe than sorry :3 and I actually found a hard sided cat carrier at petsmart that's actually kitten size which is perfect for a hedgie :D

Thanks again for the help <3<3<3<3<3
 

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Ah, I apologize for suggesting a carrier that isn't recommended. I'm still new and thought that because mine was not soft and collapsable it would be considered hard-sided. (meaning, it wasn't a hedgie-bag or purse, it is firm on the sides and keeps its shape.) Looks like I should switch to a different carrier for in-car-use and use the pretty one for taking it from car to destination such into the vet office, friend's house, etc. I was seat-belting it in, so thought that was what mattered. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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krbshappy71, those carriers are great for in the store and out of the car. I have one myself. :) The drawback is that they crush really easily, though, so if something of decent weight were to fall on it, the hedgie could be injured.

Laura Dunklee wrote an article for the Hedgehog Welfare Society Newsletter entitled "Safely Transporting Your Hedgehog: An Argument for Hard-Sided Carriers". It's on page 9 of the July/August 2008 issue, located on the HWS website: http://www.hedgehogwelfare.org/. Click newsletter on the left menu, then scroll down to HWS Newsletter #36, July - August, 2008. (I tried direct linking but it's being difficult. Sorry!)

I think it's worth a read for everyone when they start thinking about what's best for transportation.

*edited to fix the link and make the article easier to locate*
 

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aesthetics...Your "logic" could be applied to wearing seatbelts, using car seats for kids, airbags, and many other safety devices, why use any of them if the risk is so small? I work in EMS and I see what happens when people think like you do..its not pretty and definately not worth the risk.
 

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KRB- I have the same carrier and they actually make a small cage that fits inside that carrier. It virtually makes it a cage and carrier in one. :D

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I have the same carrier and cage set up for quick travel with mine. I have actually put mine through some tough tests (whacking, smashing and whatnot with no animal inside of course) and it stood those tests. What makes it an unsafe carrier? It seems a lot like a cat carrier in my eyes, so I am just trying to see where the flaw in the product is :)
 

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nikki said:
aesthetics...Your "logic" could be applied to wearing seatbelts, using car seats for kids, airbags, and many other safety devices, why use any of them if the risk is so small? I work in EMS and I see what happens when people think like you do..its not pretty and definately not worth the risk.
Okay, Nikki.

Relating a hedgehog safely placed inside a box, which you're sitting next to is not relatable to a law. You can get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. Clearly, my "logic" is assumed.

I was simply alluding to the fact, anything can be a what if. What if you did take a fancy carrier, but your (not your, but the general 'your') seven year old child was holding it during a collision? And received whiplash with the constricting seatbelt, inevitably causing the hedgehog to fall? Then what would you do? What if the carrier flew out a window, or broke through one. A large box, sterilite container (which I'm actually referring to), doesn't exactly have as much leisure to escape, as say, a small little pet container does.

My logic is, people shouldn't always base things on "what if". We drove three hours to get my female, she was housed in a box for that time, and everything was fine. The box was so large, it was safely nestled behind the driver's seat and the back seat. You couldn't move it, unless you titled it to the side, and pulled it out with the bottom laying across the back seat. A "speedy stop" didn't throw it.

It is probably more safe than some little container. This is all I was trying to say.
 

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aesthetics said:
nikki said:
aesthetics...Your "logic" could be applied to wearing seatbelts, using car seats for kids, airbags, and many other safety devices, why use any of them if the risk is so small? I work in EMS and I see what happens when people think like you do..its not pretty and definately not worth the risk.
Okay, Nikki.

What if you did take a fancy carrier, but your (not your, but the general 'your') seven year old child was holding it during a collision? And received whiplash with the constricting seatbelt, inevitably causing the hedgehog to fall? Then what would you do? What if the carrier flew out a window, or broke through one. A large box, sterilite container (which I'm actually referring to), doesn't exactly have as much leisure to escape, as say, a small little pet container does.
And why would a "seven year old" be holding the carrier. The point of a proper hard sided carrier is so that it can be safely buckled into the seat just the same as a childs car seat or humans are buckled in.

Hard sided cat/pet carriers, especially the airline approved ones are designed for safety and protection of the animal. Many of them have seat belt attachment points but even if the don't, it's not rocket science to securely buckle one in.

For a hedgehog, the size of a small hard sided pet carrier is ideal. It offers enough room to add fleece that acts as both bedding but helps to cushion any impact against the sides of the carrier. Because it is smaller, the distance the hedgehog would travel in a sudden stop is not very far.

In an accident emergency personnel will look for pet carriers and a hard sided pet carrier is readily recognizable. A box, plastic bin, or even some of the designer cloth type carriers can be overlooked.

The safest place for any pet when traveling is in a hard sided pet carrier. They are so cheap I really don't understand the argument. If someone doesn't want to pay $20 for one, watch the thrift stores, flea markets, yard sales, craigs list or kijiji for a used one. Geez, you can even ask for one on your local Freecycle group. Not only is the carrier needed for travel, if hedgie has to stay over at the vet, being in the carrier gives a safe environment filled with his/her own bedding. In the event of a power outage, the carrier can become a temporary cage giving a smaller area to try and keep warm.

When it is so easy to provide a safe environment why not do it? Sure the possibility of being in an accident is slim but I'm willing to bet every single person who has gotten in an accident didn't think it would happen to them.
 

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I guess I'm not understanding the difference of a hard carrier or a cage/carrier combo. The combo one isn't exactly soft as someone else stated above and with the cage inside, the walls are pretty hard especially when the cage is inserted (no they are not hard plastic but they are still hard). If this can be buckled in so that hedgie is secure, how is the cage going to go flying through the air or out of the car? Also why would an EMT not realize this is an animal cage~ is it the size? I'm just trying to figure out because this little carrier is perfect for me when driving short distances. I wouldn't bring it on a long trip because it doesn't provide ample room to fit a wheel, igloo etc. For that I could definitely see where the hard carrier would be perfect.

BTW- What about a "Hedgehog on Board" sticker for your vehicle like is done with show dogs? lol Just a thought. :lol:

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If you mean http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.j ... Id=2753365 That is okay to use. It doesn't provide as much protection as a hard sided cat carrier but he is not going to go flying once he'es buckled in. If that carrier is impacted by something, it will crush far easier than a regular cat/pet carrier.

Between this and a typical hard sided cat carrier, this one will be less obvious as a pet carrier. I have a couple of carriers that are very similar in design and I do on occasion use them in the vehicle if I'm not going very far or not going on the highways. Even though they do have plastic in the sides, they will crush far easier.

Another thing to consider when choosing a carrier for in the vehicle is ventilation. In an accident things go flying around and can land on top of or beside the carrier. Therefore, ventilation on all sides is important in case one, two, or three sides get blocked.
 

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Well, paper bags, plastic bags, or canvas bags. They all serve one purpose. Everyone has something to say about them.

There is no "I'm right, you're wrong" way. Many people have used boxes, containers (albeit the majority) does a pet carrier help? Sure, I'm sure it does. Does a container work, too? It did for me. Commanding an air of "this is the right way", should be an option, but don't frown upon other methods.

And, as always, people have and will make their own choose.
 
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