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I really don't mean this to offend anybody, and I hope it doesn't, but I've only been on the forums for a few weeks and I feel like I have seen too much of this problem already. I'm sure it has been said many times, but somehow people are getting hedghogs without this bit of information first..

There are a lot of posts on the different boards where the poster mentions a problem with their hedgie, such as an upset tummy, not eating, injuries from the wheel, etc. Very often, it is discovered that the original poster is feeding a very BAD kind of food, or has a BAD wheel, or the WRONG kind of bedding, or is in an INAPPROPRIATE cage, or at too LOW of a temperature, and when other members encourage them to seek out a healthier brand of food or better more suitable accessories for a hedgehog, these are the responses:

"Well the better quality food is a lot more expensive.."
"It's hard to get that kind of wheel in my country/state/province.."
"I don't have time to go shopping.."
"It's too difficult to keep the whole house warm enough and I can't afford a space heater.."
"You can't have that kind of cage shipped to where I live.."

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These are things that must be considered BEFORE GETTING A HEDGEHOG! Before one even considers adopting a hedgehog and bringing it home, you should make absolute certain that you are able to provide
-a good quality cage that is appropriate for hedgehogs
-PLENTY of high-quality recommended cat food
-a suitable wheel
-a comfortable temperature.
-veterinary care with someone experienced in hedgehogs

It is CRUCIAL to the poor hedgehog's health, and it is NOT okay to "compromise" the quality of a hedgie's bedding, wheel, food, or home just because it isn't available in your area or because it's too expensive. If that is the case, then a hedgehog is not the pet for you. :cry:

EDIT: This was mentioned and also needs to be addressed. Before you get a hedgehog you must acknowledge that you will probably need to take him or her to the vet one day, and taking an exotic to the vet can be expensive. Plus, not all vets can treat hedgehogs, not even all exotic vets, so it is imperative that you are sure of one before bringing the hedgie home! There is a list right here on Hedgehog Central, so the situation should never arise when someone is frantically calling around to different vets while their hedgie is sick or injured.

I really don't want to make anyone upset, but it is horrible to sacrifice your pet's health and happiness because you weren't able to prepare for them and can't provide the kind of environment a hedgehog NEEDS for a long and healthy life. If you can't get your hands on the right supplies that are needed to own a hedgehog, you need to look into rehoming the poor baby immediately. :|
 

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The problem with some is they got their "advice" from a pet store! One day while visiting a pet store near me that, sometimes sells hedgehogs, I overheard the person tell a teen that the hedgehog needed to be fed Pretty Pets and would live to be 15 yrs old. I was shocked, but left. Thank goodness, that teen showed up at HHC and we helped him learn the real truth.

A pet store will sell you the wrong stuff and they really don't care.
 

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FIFTEEN years old?? If only it were true! :lol:
You're right about the pet stores though! I once saw a hedgehog being kept in a small aquarium with no shavings or anything, just the cold hard glass. There was a woman yelling at the store manager to sell her the hedgehog immediately for a low price (they wanted $250) or she would be reporting them. As I left she was telling the girl behind the cash register how a hedgehog should REALLY be taken care of. I was really proud of her!
 

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Even more specific, often

Male + Female = in-need-of-vet-care-female +- dead, dying, or eaten babies.

Also a proven fact. :shock:

Immortalia, it's amazing how people don't understand basic things like that. :lol:
 

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What I don't understand is how these people who use cheap food, too small cages, can't take their sick hedgehog to the vet, etc... can afford an expensive pet in the first place. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $200 for Quillbert and about another $75 on set up materials like his sterilite bin, wheel, igloo, etc. Not to mention that I spent about another $50 on fabric to make liners and bags before tossing out the shavings. If you have the money to buy the pet then you should make sure that you have the money to get the little guy everything he needs.
 

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That too! People that see hedgies in pet stores I think buy on impulse, thinking hedgies can't be *that* expensive... and if they find out they do cost more than that, who cares? It's easy to buy the cheap stuff anyways. ("I can't afford to buy a hedgie, so I need someone to give one to me for free I'll take great care of it" - what?)
 

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I've noticed a lot of new posts like this as well. I cannot comprehend how people can justify getting all their information from a pet store that is trying to sell them something. Don't people understand that pet stores have ulterior motives. Even people that come into my store which is pretty good. All of us that work there are informed and put the needs of the dog and the customer before making a sale. But still people come in and ask for medicine, how to cure this and that. What should I feed my dog if he has this medical condition. I'm not a vet! People that work in pet stores are not experts! We are just people that have part time close to minimum wage jobs. Don't trust us!
 

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too bad we don't have a hand claping smily here *insert it here*
I agree with everything you said, but the bigger problem is that people don't want to admit they are wrong when given good advice. Remember my post in the famous ZooZone cage topic. In almost 4 years of hedgie ownership, I never knew it would be a bad cage (my breeder told me it was a really good one :roll: ). After learning it was wrong, I saved some money and this weeken Litchi will be moving in her new dig (new bigger stand, new liners and new cage). It's ok to be wrong, but you have to own up to your mistakes
 

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I agree with everything you said, but the bigger problem is that people don't want to admit they are wrong when given good advice. Remember my post in the famous ZooZone cage topic.
Yes FiaSpice, I remember that topic quite well! Haha, that was back when I was still awaiting Rocko's arrival and doing research, but I read it and was completely shocked. I didn't even think about that when I was writing this topic, but now that you mention it, it's funny that everything I said pretty much applied there! :lol: Some people are just stubborn and refuse to admit that others on this forum have more experience and their advice should be trusted.

Kudos to you on getting your baby a new cage after getting better information. I hope Litchi enjoys her new home!
 

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Such a beautifully written post! Not offensive at all. Written with obviously sincere compassion, caring and love for hedgies. Thank you so much. I wish there could be a space on Hedgehog Central where this post could be saved for all time.
 

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Such a beautifully written post! Not offensive at all. Written with obviously sincere compassion, caring and love for hedgies. Thank you so much. I wish there could be a space on Hedgehog Central where this post could be saved for all time.
like a sticky... that would be good.
 

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If you make it a sticky could we add something about knowing where the nearest vet is?

Another person I was talking to asked me what vet I use. I was SO EMBARASSED. :oops: I do not have a vet lined up yet. Thankfully the person graciously suggested someone to me and they are local. I had looked up vet places in my town to make sure there was one but in the event of an emergency do I really want to rush it to a stranger and ask if they still look at hedgehogs? No way. So I am going to go meet the vet recommended to me and do a wellness checkup, and that way I've also driven to the place instead of having to look it up on a map (or TomTom for us techies) during an emotional situation.

Anyhow that is my spew and admission to a mistake all in one.
 

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If you make it a sticky could we add something about knowing where the nearest vet is?
You guys make me blush with thinking this deserves to be a sticky. :)
But, just in case it does get stickied, and just for the people reading it, I will add the vet thing in! That's really important too.

And don't worry, everyone makes mistakes and has to ask questions sometimes, even experienced owners. We all learn new things all the time, so don't feel bad now that you've learned something new! It's just those who pretty much openly acknowledge that they are unable to provide something because of cost/location/time/whatever that makes me go "UGHH :evil: "
 

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Making mistakes is not a problem if you are willing to admit you were wrong, and fix the situation. :)
 

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If you make it a sticky could we add something about knowing where the nearest vet is?

Another person I was talking to asked me what vet I use. I was SO EMBARASSED. :oops: I do not have a vet lined up yet. Thankfully the person graciously suggested someone to me and they are local. I had looked up vet places in my town to make sure there was one but in the event of an emergency do I really want to rush it to a stranger and ask if they still look at hedgehogs? No way. So I am going to go meet the vet recommended to me and do a wellness checkup, and that way I've also driven to the place instead of having to look it up on a map (or TomTom for us techies) during an emotional situation.

Anyhow that is my spew and admission to a mistake all in one.
That's a good thing, my vet is willing to do emergency when you are a "regular" so that's a good thing to have a wellnes check up so in the even of something, they are more willing to accomodate you.
 

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oooo yes this post is good.
I absolutely hate reading posts where people say they cant afford to do this or that, or a bad condition is 'ok' for now. Meaning they don't care what condition the hedgie is because its only going to be like that for a few months. I'd love to see them live in a dirty freezing cold room, with only chips to eat. Thats the equivalent of what they're doing to a hedgie.

Well done.

They dont even need to admit they're wrong on here, as long as they put it right straight away at home for the lil hedgie.

Although i do have to say certain people are a bit nasty with their replies to people who ask for advice. This is what this forum is for, its for help and advice and whether that person has received wrong advice elsewhere or whatever they shouldnt be put down on here which i see happen a few times :? I dont really like to see that happen, some people genuinely dont know and are trying to fix things for the best with their hedgie, and they get shot down on their first post.
 

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I couldnt agree with you more. I am picking my new baby up in 3 weeks time and i would buy him what ever was recommended to keep him fit and healthy. Every week I txt the breeder to see how Alfie is doin (My new baby hedgie), and also ask when im buying things what she would recommend. I wouldnt buy him cheap food or anything that would upset him or make him ill and i agree if you are not willing to provide properly for them then they really shouldnt be your pet.
 
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