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12-10-2008 10:43 AM
LizardGirl
Re: breeding?

I would suggest, if one or both has been spayed/neutered, keeping them together. If there has been no fighting, they are probably bonded and would be stressed by the separation (although, hedgies are solitary creatures).

If neither is altered, you might be able to have one spayed (I would say the female, because she would be having the worst of it on her reproductive tract) and them still live together. If you don't go down that route, it may be best just to keep them apart.



12-09-2008 10:55 PM
Jen
Re: breeding?

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Originally Posted by LizardGirl
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Like I said in the previous post, I am 99% sure she hasn't gotten pregnant.
If one is spayed, then obviously there would be no babies. If they are not, then YES, there was babies and they didn't make it. If you read previous posts in this thread, sevaral people state that it is difficult to notice a hedgie's pregnacy, and some may go through the entire pregnacy and birth without any obvious signs. I know for a fact this happens with mice all the time, as I raise them, and one of my does will never change in appearance/weight/appetite, yet she still has her babies, nurses them, etc. and is a great mother.
Aw, I'm trying to convince myself that that's not the case. I would hate to have known that that happened. I hope they were sexed incorrectly, or at the very least, spayed! You seem to be quite knowledgeable; if she is spayed, would you recommend keeping them in the same cage (because they seem to be so friendly with other), or should I still keep them caged separately? I'm beginning to realise that I should just find another one altogether, as it seems like so much work with these two! :(
12-09-2008 10:42 PM
LizardGirl
Re: breeding?

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Like I said in the previous post, I am 99% sure she hasn't gotten pregnant.
If one is spayed, then obviously there would be no babies. If they are not, then YES, there was babies and they didn't make it. If you read previous posts in this thread, sevaral people state that it is difficult to notice a hedgie's pregnacy, and some may go through the entire pregnacy and birth without any obvious signs. I know for a fact this happens with mice all the time, as I raise them, and one of my does will never change in appearance/weight/appetite, yet she still has her babies, nurses them, etc. and is a great mother.



12-09-2008 10:16 PM
Jen
Re: breeding?

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Originally Posted by nikki
With them having been together for 5 months the female will have given birth...at least once if not more. With the male in the same cage either he or the female would have eaten them right after birth..there would have been nothing left to see. The owner wouldn't ever have seen the babies or known that she had them. If this is allowed to keep happening over and over it will kill the female in time. Either the female needs to be spayed or they need to be seperated or the female will die.
Like I said in the previous post, I am 99% sure she hasn't gotten pregnant. Whether that means that the female is spayed or the male neutered, I do not know. However, I do doubt that the owner wouldn't have realised that her hedgehog was pregnant; seeing as how she checks up on them regularly, and has 3 kids who do so, as well. :/ If the female is spayed/male neutered or even if the two are sexed incorrectly, which IS more than possible, is it common for the two to be on such good terms with each other? Or should I still keep them separated, despite them always staying together?
12-09-2008 10:07 PM
LizardGirl
Re: breeding?

As Nikki clarified, I meant the parents are continually eating the babies, and there is nothing left to see. I highly doubt they have NOT bred, being together so long. It isn't like the owner was there supervising 24/7 for the whole time, to tell they haven't.



12-09-2008 09:51 PM
nikki
Re: breeding?

With them having been together for 5 months the female will have given birth...at least once if not more. With the male in the same cage either he or the female would have eaten them right after birth..there would have been nothing left to see. The owner wouldn't ever have seen the babies or known that she had them. If this is allowed to keep happening over and over it will kill the female in time. Either the female needs to be spayed or they need to be seperated or the female will die.
12-09-2008 09:40 PM
Jen
Re: breeding?

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Originally Posted by LizardGirl
The mother could have been constantly becoming pregnant, giving birth, male eats the baby, gets prego again, and the process continues. Are they sexed properly?

It is an ABSOLUTE no-no to keep them together. It's likely their health is already affected by this poor husbandry, and won't live too long. Two separate cages are a must, and you can hope that they were simply sexed incorrectly.
As far as I'm aware, neither the male nor the female has bred. The woman got the two a week after I received mine; which was sometime in early July. Meaning that if she did get pregnant from having been in the same cage as the male, she would have surely given birth by now. The only thing is, is that she hasn't. And it's been 5 months. From the information I have received, there seem to be no problems between the two. They're just simply always together.
12-09-2008 09:31 PM
LizardGirl
Re: breeding?

The mother could have been constantly becoming pregnant, giving birth, male eats the baby, gets prego again, and the process continues. Are they sexed properly?

It is an ABSOLUTE no-no to keep them together. It's likely their health is already affected by this poor husbandry, and won't live too long. Two separate cages are a must, and you can hope that they were simply sexed incorrectly.



12-09-2008 09:24 PM
Jen
Re: breeding?

I was curious as to how definite the "females should never be placed with males" statement is. Having had a male hedgehog who just passed away this Friday, I was told that I could take in a male and female from a friend of my Mother's. Though my Mother hasn't been able to talk to her, and thus, hasn't been able to find out much information concerning the two; she did say that the woman housed the two together because she "thought they were in love", for lack of a better word. And by "being in love", she has housed them in the same cage and they are ALWAYS together. No fighting, no qualms, no rough housing of any kind. Though I'm not sure if they are spayed or neutered, is this relatively common? If I do end up getting them, should I separate them in two cages?

Thank you in advance. :)
12-04-2008 12:16 AM
Gnarly
Re: breeding?

If there is something you aren't sure about, or could have something clarified, wait, until you find out.

If you are seriously interested in breeding find a reliable mentor, and get a pair of registered, pedigreed hedgies.
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