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10-26-2010 01:05 AM
dragonfly3007
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffers315
If you're thinking about a different cage, one thing that is used by many owners are plain old clear Steralite storage bins, they're cheap, easy to clean, all you need to do is add some vent holes to the side by either cutting/drilling/melting them into it. Most get two but basically you get the largest you can handle. The double bin idea is mainly you have one for their housing, food and water dishes, then the second one has their wheel inside, you connect them via 5 inch PVC pipe piece.

Its not what I used, I got a large Ferret Nation just because I liked the cages, though I think if I had to do it again, I would have gone for a C&C or Storage Bin house.
Thank you for the tips; I was eyeing new cages at the pet store today. I might consider purchasing one with a plastic bottom but otherwise similar to the one she currently has, but we'll see how the other solutions work first

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgieonboard
Has your Grandma had the oxygen machine since you have had your hedgie? The reason I ask is if she had gotten after or if you just started sharing the room it may be possible the noise may play into the equation. My Grandma has one and when I visited I remember it made a hissing like noise when the oxygen comes out. This may be nothing but it was something that came to mind when I was thinking over all the factors that this may or may not be affecting it.
Hope you find out and the best of luck to you and your little one
Thank you! But yes she has had the oxygen since day 1. So Bellie is pretty used to it lol

UPDATE!! I covered her cage this evening by putting the towel on the front of the cage and down the sides instead of leaving it along the back and only covering half of the sides. I woke her up around 11pm before I covered her, and it is now 1am and I am happy to report that she has been running on her wheel/eating since then (I keep peeking at her and also can hear when she's crunching on her kibble). I also ordered a snuggle bag to hopefully help control her body temperature. Hopefully all this trouble was just a developed sensitivity to light and a big BIG thank you to everyone who has commented on this post and helped me out It seems I just got one of the most fussy, finicky hedgehogs out there!
10-26-2010 12:29 AM
Hedgieonboard
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Has your Grandma had the oxygen machine since you have had your hedgie? The reason I ask is if she had gotten after or if you just started sharing the room it may be possible the noise may play into the equation. My Grandma has one and when I visited I remember it made a hissing like noise when the oxygen comes out. This may be nothing but it was something that came to mind when I was thinking over all the factors that this may or may not be affecting it.
Hope you find out and the best of luck to you and your little one
10-25-2010 10:02 PM
Puffers315
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

If you're thinking about a different cage, one thing that is used by many owners are plain old clear Steralite storage bins, they're cheap, easy to clean, all you need to do is add some vent holes to the side by either cutting/drilling/melting them into it. Most get two but basically you get the largest you can handle. The double bin idea is mainly you have one for their housing, food and water dishes, then the second one has their wheel inside, you connect them via 5 inch PVC pipe piece.

Its not what I used, I got a large Ferret Nation just because I liked the cages, though I think if I had to do it again, I would have gone for a C&C or Storage Bin house.
10-25-2010 08:58 PM
dragonfly3007
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Quote:
Originally Posted by susanaproenca
I'd recommend the Carolina Storm Wheel, LarryT here on the forum sells them. Just type the name of the wheel on the search tool. It's very safe, easy to clean and comfortable on hedgie's little feet.
Thanks! I actually just googled it and was considering it, but I wanted to see what other recommendations would come in

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy
Sometimes it's not so much that windows are drafty but that they radiate cold. Putting the plastic window kits over the windows usually really helps in keeping out the cold.

A quick easy fix for the metal bottomed cage is to get a piece of coroplast and cut to fit tight inside the metal base.

A plastic igloo with some fleece inside or a baby receiving blanket makes a good bed if you can't find bags. Nikki on here sells bags. http://quillsnthings.webs.com/accessoriesforsale.htm
Thank you very much!
10-25-2010 08:56 PM
Nancy
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Sometimes it's not so much that windows are drafty but that they radiate cold. Putting the plastic window kits over the windows usually really helps in keeping out the cold.

A quick easy fix for the metal bottomed cage is to get a piece of coroplast and cut to fit tight inside the metal base.

A plastic igloo with some fleece inside or a baby receiving blanket makes a good bed if you can't find bags. Nikki on here sells bags. http://quillsnthings.webs.com/accessoriesforsale.htm

10-25-2010 08:51 PM
susanaproenca
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

I'd recommend the Carolina Storm Wheel, LarryT here on the forum sells them. Just type the name of the wheel on the search tool. It's very safe, easy to clean and comfortable on hedgie's little feet.
10-25-2010 08:44 PM
dragonfly3007
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Quote:
Originally Posted by princessbuttercup
Let me know if there's any advancements.
I certainly will! Review the post and all the tips everyone gave me and see if any of them apply to you/your hedgie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffers315
Light can be a very important factor with hedgehogs. My girl Hester didn't really first really care about my desk lamp or tv/monitor glow, but as she has grown older and is getting close to being a year old, she now won't come out until its almost pitch black. ...

And if you got the Carolina Storm Wheel, the angle of the tilt can be adjusted, you might try if you're worried to tilt it backwards a touch, until she gets the hang of it. I've never had neither of my guys fall out from running on it, and its angled just enough that urine and typically poop will come off.
Maybe it is a maturity thing -- she's becoming more light sensitive as she gets older. The last time she tried hibernating I upped the amount of light she was getting a day (from 10/12 hours to 12/14 hours) and it made a huge difference. I didn't think about blocking out light at night because it never had been a problem before and the light is so minimal. Tonight I will try blocking out the light and see if it makes a difference.

As far as the wheel goes, I didn't have any luck finding one in one of the four different pet stores I went to (that wasn't either way too small or way too big), so I'm probably going to have to order one. Thank you for the tips on adjustment though!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastrina
I wanted to add a comment about the wheel you pictured; my hedgehog ran on a wheel just like this one before and for a short time after I brought him home, and it was tearing up the pads of his feet. After giving your hedgie a foot bath, see how the foot pads look, paying special attention to anything that looks like a cut or abrasion. This might have something to do with a lack of wheeling. I definitely recommend a cake wheel, they're easy on little feet and a breeze to clean.

~Katie
I check her feet/toenails when I'm clipping the nails and the pads of her feet never seem hurt or cut. I did think that maybe the wire was too abrasive for her (as many people are vehemently against the type of wheel I've been using) but her feet always seem to be the same colour as her arms with no visible signs of wear and tear. I will be changing her wheel over to a bucket-style though just in case she no longer cares for the feel of her wheel (or something along those lines). Thank you!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy
Heat rises so the heater should be on the floor.

If you need to enclose the sides of the cage to prevent drafts, it is best to use heavy clear plastic as it still allows light through but no drafts. You can buy it by the yard at fabric stores and it comes in various thicknesses. Attach it using either binder clips or clothespins.

At 8.5" the wheel is smaller than is recommended for a hedgehog but if she is very tiny it might be okay. As others have mentioned, mesh wheels are not recommended as they can catch toes and feet. To make the wheel safe, you can attach craft foam to the running surface.
Sorry, I know I didn't make it clear but I just store the heater there. When it's on it's usually on a lower level (either the shelf below her cage or on the floor).

I don't think my room is terribly drafty, but since we do have older windows and there are 3 of them I put the towel up just as a precaution. I think that as someone else mentioned in an earlier comment, the main concern when it comes to temperature is the fact that she has a metal bottom cage. It would explain her body temp being either warm or cool and I'm trying to find a snuggle thing for her, but the only ones I can find in pet stores are for ferrets and are way too big/hanging type. I'm going to try to find one online to order but so far all I've found is make-it-yourself or listings on Etsy. Do you have any recommendations for the snuggle bags?

I checked the wheel again and it's actually 9" (not a big difference, I know) but she is small and fits comfortably on it. I'm looking into the bucket-style but wasn't able to find one in-store (I went to 4 different places). Do you have any good online recommendations for the wheels as well?

Again, a great big thank you to everyone who's been posting replies!
10-25-2010 06:16 PM
Nancy
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Heat rises so the heater should be on the floor.

If you need to enclose the sides of the cage to prevent drafts, it is best to use heavy clear plastic as it still allows light through but no drafts. You can buy it by the yard at fabric stores and it comes in various thicknesses. Attach it using either binder clips or clothespins.

At 8.5" the wheel is smaller than is recommended for a hedgehog but if she is very tiny it might be okay. As others have mentioned, mesh wheels are not recommended as they can catch toes and feet. To make the wheel safe, you can attach craft foam to the running surface.
10-25-2010 05:22 PM
Alastrina
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

I wanted to add a comment about the wheel you pictured; my hedgehog ran on a wheel just like this one before and for a short time after I brought him home, and it was tearing up the pads of his feet. After giving your hedgie a foot bath, see how the foot pads look, paying special attention to anything that looks like a cut or abrasion. This might have something to do with a lack of wheeling. I definitely recommend a cake wheel, they're easy on little feet and a breeze to clean.

~Katie
10-25-2010 04:51 PM
Puffers315
Re: Strange behaviour, vague "symptoms", LOTS of info

Light can be a very important factor with hedgehogs. My girl Hester didn't really first really care about my desk lamp or tv/monitor glow, but as she has grown older and is getting close to being a year old, she now won't come out until its almost pitch black.

My 2 year old boy Loki will -not- come out unless he has total utter darkness. About a month back I had replaced the blackout curtain on his cage with a blanket, and it was enough that it let just a little light into his cage, and he stopped wheeling and being active, he'd eat and drink but that was it.

A black out curtain might be something to look into, I was using this on my cage, towels on the side and the curtain on the front. The curtain is a lighter material than a towel or blanket, and I left the back of the cage uncovered and about 2 inches from the wall so there was some sort of air flow. The curtain specifically blocks out 99.9% of the light.

And if you got the Carolina Storm Wheel, the angle of the tilt can be adjusted, you might try if you're worried to tilt it backwards a touch, until she gets the hang of it. I've never had neither of my guys fall out from running on it, and its angled just enough that urine and typically poop will come off.
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