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09-03-2009 04:13 PM
gyaku
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Its ok Lizardgirl, everyone makes mistakes...
09-02-2009 09:51 PM
LizardGirl
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

LOL, my bad. I have been really not reading things right lately... gyaku is right about calling them "herbivores" being wrong. For some reason I saw herbivores and though omnivores, which is what I posted thinking. Duhhhh! *smacks head*



09-02-2009 07:58 PM
gyaku
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

We are always learning things new every day, and some more than others. Its impossible to truly know everything there is to know about hedgehogs. Personally I agree with the Omnivor statement and I also agree that many people still follow what the pet stores say about hedgehogs.... Though when I asked about hedgehogs Samatha (manager of the store) said to check out the website, which I thought was kinda weird that they weren't really using many breeder's advice... At least give credit for some trying to change... I plan to become a breeder in the future, but right now I can't make any guesses when just yet, maybe 5 years, maybe more, maybe less... I really don't know....
09-02-2009 11:25 AM
hedgielover
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Quote:
Originally Posted by LizardGirl
I can understand people saying they are herbivores, even if they are technically insectivores. Wild hedgies also eat small animals, leftovers from carcasses, and fruits/veggies.
I would think that if you are going to misinterpret their diet it would make more sense to call them omnivores than herbivores. At least that is what their diet looks most like in captivity.
09-02-2009 11:03 AM
Nancy
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Quote:
Originally Posted by gyaku
Any who enough about that, who is the most experienced breeder here?
That would be Deneen (Hedgiepets) first and then me. We have both been breeding the same length of time but she has had far more litters than I have.
09-02-2009 11:01 AM
LizardGirl
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Reaper isn't a breeder.

Nancy and Deneen are the most experienced breeders on here. Both of which are very busy with things in their lives right now... There are other breeders but really it takes years to get as much experience as they have. You think you know everything, but over the years you add more realizations to the pile and wonder how you could have survived not knowing those things.

I can understand people saying they are herbivores, even if they are technically insectivores. Wild hedgies also eat small animals, leftovers from carcasses, and fruits/veggies.



09-02-2009 09:34 AM
gyaku
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Generally since a brand of food says its hedgehog food, they will suggest it, since its cheap and under most people's understanding hedgehogs are herbivors... Which is completely wrong. Most people also call them rodents... Guess what wrong again.

If I were to make a general classification of animal family a hedgehog belongs to, it would be a cross between a dog and a lizard (or at least mine behaves like one sometimes). Hedgehogs are Insectivors in the wild, but most people call them rodents cause of their size.
Also the rules I mentioned earlier, there is no punishment for not following them really... I am working with the boss of PJ's in my area to improve the conditions, since she wants to cooperate, while others may take me to court and require a lawyer and somebody who has been breeding hedgehogs for a while. Nancy I think you would qualify, though I don't know right now, and sadly I have more important issues to take care of, like the cost of everything and the cost of a new car since mine was broken into last night and many things were destroyed... At least all I had in there was a bus schedual and a really old phone book (1995).
Nancy and Reaper would be the only breeders that I believe would qualify as back up for court date, they say you must have at least 5 years of breeding hedgehogs... I don't even have that yet, though once I get a larger house I will be a breeder in my area. Currently there is no laws about taking care of Exotic pets, being Rodents, hedgehogs, or lizards. There are some laws about dogs and cats, though they haven't changed for a while and have never been changing under new research cause the laws are much older than all of us here, (unless somebody is 100 years+) though it would take a lot to change the govnt that don't know much... Any who enough about that, who is the most experienced breeder here?
09-02-2009 12:13 AM
Kirby
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

The PJ's Pet Center near my area is awful! There are two hedgehogs in one cage and all they have is water, food (if you consider Pretty Pets as food) and an igloo. Nothing else. The dogs, cats, ferrets and parrots don't really have a nice life there either. And I see many of their syrian hamsters dying because they are caged together.

Now, my PetSmart on the other hand, I really like how they take care of their pets. All they really sell are hamsters and the occasional gerbils. They hamsters are taken care of properly and they are named correctly as well. They don't have any animals that require a lot of care, such as rabbits, ferrets, parrots, and of course, hedgehogs. And of course there's the adoption center as well. Too bad there isn't a lot of supplies there (despite the fact that it is huge)...
08-27-2009 02:42 PM
gyaku
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Pets Mart as I am aware is newer then PJ's, and so far as I have found Pets Mart only has one location that sells hedgehogs, and that's only certain times of the year. PJ's tends to be a bit more cooperative, kinda like they want to change, but never got the right info to begin having a hedgehog safe cage. However there are still places that demand they know everything, but yet don't even have anything to show for it really.

Hedgehogs in my area sell fast, moment they are in the cage, they are gone asap. At least they are smart enough not to use pine shavings. The one in my area uses aspen shavings.
08-27-2009 02:01 PM
hedgielover
Re: Bad Hedgehog Conditions in Pet Stores

Pet stores just frustrate me in general and I try not to shop in them. Places like Pet Value and other stores that do not sell animals are much better. unfortunately it's not always possible to get what you need from anywhere but a pet smart or a PJ's. I agree that PJ's is better though.
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