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08-17-2011 03:57 PM
wahoobritney
Re: older male, baby female

well thanx guys, i'm definitely keeping my bella then and spoiling her forever. i've already started giving them separate play times so everything will be great. thank youuuuu
08-17-2011 03:30 PM
Re: older male, baby female

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Originally Posted by wahoobritney
I read that if you got young male and an older male they wouldnt fight for dominance because obvs murry would be the big one. and they would both be from the pet store so they have lived with many other hedgehogs...
Your mistaken even if it doesn't happen immediately many long term experienced breeders will tell you males will almost always fight eventually.

Pet Shop Hedgehogs also tend to come from breeding mills where they are inbred and tend to harbor more aggressive tendencies at times. Just because they were housed together doesn't mean they all get along the pet store is going to remove injured or killed hedgehogs immediately so not to upset potential buyers when they see the hedgehogs.

Hedgehogs are solitary creatures and aside from rare exceptions don't seeks a friend, the only friend a hedgehog needs is its owner

In very rare cases hedgehogs form bonds with another and usually they are family and been together forever, even a short time apart can change things and even if they seem to get along doesn't mean they won't decide to fight over a food dish or a wheel.

While it doesn't always happen, most here at HHC prefer to follow a "Better Safe then Sorry" policy with such things.
08-17-2011 03:25 PM
wahoobritney
Re: older male, baby female

I read that if you got young male and an older male they wouldnt fight for dominance because obvs murry would be the big one. and they would both be from the pet store so they have lived with many other hedgehogs...
08-17-2011 03:03 PM
smsaifyr
Re: older male, baby female

Well even if you had gotten a young male, you would need to have them in different cages, males cannot be housed together.
08-17-2011 02:41 PM
wahoobritney
Re: older male, baby female

Thnx for the help guys, and he was just telling me all the same things I read. I did do my research that's why I hoped to get a young male instead of a female. I was looking for any new advice, and I got it from some ppl so thnx
08-17-2011 11:32 AM
moothecow
Re: older male, baby female

Oh sorry, I meant beside each other as in, in-the-same-cage kind of beside each other, not cages side-by side. I know some of you have hedgie rooms full of stacked cages, and that works just fine. Sorry for the confusion
08-17-2011 11:10 AM
Nancy
Re: older male, baby female

I would have responded with everything Kalandra has already said and yes, I have had and still do have boys and girls living above, below and beside each other. To do so, they must be in solid sided cages so there can be no direct contact such as reaching paws, noses or other parts through the bars. Cages need to both be 100% escape proof. No open topped cages when there are a male and female in the same room as some can be relentless in trying to escape to get to the other.

Boys sometimes show absolutely no interest in the girls until dark. My Merlin would hide in a corner from a pursuing girl, showing no interest at all until it was dark and the house was quiet. Obviously he wanted total privacy.

Unless neutered a boy will relentlessly pursue a girl, even a spayed girl to the point that she could turn on him. Personally, I would keep them in escape proof cages with separate play times because even if you do neuter him, there is no guarantee that they would get along. I also would not neuter a male just to house him with a girl as has Kalandra has mentioned, the surgery is involved and more risky than with a cat or dog.
08-17-2011 10:09 AM
Kalandra
Re: older male, baby female

How close do you feel is too close for cages?

See I actually disagree that you cannot keep them near each other. I have kept boys and girls in cages that were near each other for years. Unless she has changed her opinion recently, I know Nancy has also posted on here that her cages are stacked. She has kept boys above, below and in cages next to her girls as well. We both ensure that there are solid barriers, so that there is no chance of any contact between the bars or any chance of escape.

If you are using wire cages, just ensure that there is no chance of escape or that they can reach each other through the bars.
08-17-2011 09:37 AM
moothecow
Re: older male, baby female

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Originally Posted by wahoobritney
They were only together once. But Obvs I was right there the whole time cuz she's
So small. She is in a little cage right now... What I meant by buying her a cage was like a
Big one with her own wheel Abd all that S***. And they can be in the same room just not right beside eachother. But kbye cuz you don't give me any new info.thnx
Actually, TWCOGAR answered the exact question you asked. You asked if there was a way to keep them in the same cage without them mating, and TWCOGAR told you no, there absolutely is not. So, frankly, I'm not sure why you're being rather rude and dismissive. If he did not answer your exact question, then it would help if you provided us with more details.

If what you were asking was whether you can somehow keep the two of them in the same cage while you're getting a bigger cage for the girl, the answer is also no. For all the reasons TWCOGAR listed. Them being so close together isn't good for them, as she'll start ovulating and he'll get frustrated. Yes, they can be in the same room, just not beside each other. If she's in a little cage right now, that's fine until you get her the bigger cage. Just, unfortunately, you'll never be able to have both your hedgies out at the same time, because of the induced ovulation problem.

Hope that answers your questions. If not, then please clarify what you would like to know and we'll do our best to answer.
08-17-2011 09:27 AM
Kalandra
Re: older male, baby female

You really don't have many options. Chances are since he has already shown he is interested in girls, he will always try to mate with the female when she is present. There are males that are less interested, but even those can suddenly decide they want to mate too.

I don't recommend it, but if you really want to house them together you will need to find a veterinarian that is experienced in hedgehog neutering. I have known a few people who have had their male hedgehog neutered so that he could live with a female. Neutering is not a quick and easy surgery like it is with dogs or cats. I have never inquired as to the cost for a neuter, but I would expect it to run a similar amount as to any surgery ($300-500). It is an invasive surgery, and I've been told by a few owners that their vet would not perform it as an elective surgery.

I was told once about you get the male neutered if you want him to live with a female. I was told it is better to neuter the male as an intact male is more likely to still harass a spayed female. I've never had a spayed female so cannot comment from my own experience as to how an intact male will react to them though.

I don't recommend neutering simply because it is a surgery and there are always risks of losing the animal when they have a surgery performed. I have always just found it easier just to have separate housing, and separate play times.
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