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05-17-2019 08:31 PM
zoinks Our favourite part of his current mix is Applaws Complete Natural Dry Cat Food Kitten Chicken which would bring our total values up to 33.3% protein and 13.7% fats so keeping one of his current mix in wouldn't actually be too bad of an idea for the time being, thanks Ria!
05-17-2019 02:08 AM
Ria Yea both those foods are fine. You could always change the ratio to have more of the fatty one to bring the fat up higher. Or just keep them on what the breeder has longer, depending how you feel about the food anyway, because you need to leave them on the same food for at least a week while they settle in the new home. Or as your changing it, if okay with the highest fat of that food and it bring the fat up of what you have already to a better feet keeping it at a good protein then you could leave that one in while he/she is still young and then take it out if you wanted later down the line when he/she is older and you want to use less fat again.
05-16-2019 07:42 PM
zoinks Thanks guys!

We've decided to just use a 50 - 50 mix of Arden Grande and Wainwright's weight control since that adds up to 31% protein and 10.5% fat- The fat is lower than we'd like especially while he's still growing but I figure we can quite easily get it up by allowing him a couple more fatty bugs!! 😆 We'd rather not include an indoor food if it wouldn't help the smell and figure we can always try him with an indoor cat food later down the line if the smell does become an issue.

Fingers crossed this is an okay choice! 😨 Please please let me know if it isn't.
05-15-2019 06:35 AM
HappyHedgehogs Yes that's the same one I use, thanks for the advice I will be sure to include that next time! 😊
05-15-2019 02:36 AM
Ria I have a food with tomato pomace near the end, and Holly is absolutely fine, I was a little worried about but I thought I'd try it anyway because I would monitor it and any bad signs it would come out, but its perfectly fine.

Having an indoor cat food DOESNT do anything for smell. Poo smells worse depending on:
1 how much their diet is made up of cat biscuit
2 the lower the quality- the more fillers it has- the worse it will make their smell.
3 if you use a fish one it can (not always just mostly) makes their poo smell worse !!

Indoor cat foods have absolutely no effect on the smell. However they are great for having low fat, so its great to add to a mix to bring down the fat.
Having a diet that is majority healthy gut loaded insects is a brilliant way for less stinky poo. Only thing is you dont want to feed too many as they all pretty high in fibre and too much fibre isnt great for them.

HappyHedgehogs - I found that for me Iams is the best. It's a good quality cat food, but for a reasonable price. I'm sorry I'm going to repeat what I said on the other thread here too not because I don't think you don't understand but for more peoples benefit. Iams is not known to be a good brand, and that is majorly understandable, most of Iams brand food does have poor quality, most the time it has unnamed meats, so many fillers !! Its just not the best to recommend as an overall brand. However, there are some that are good - I spent hours looking at the majority iams foods and found 1 that was good its an indoor one for vitality too and I use it, its a fresh chicken ones.
Now Ik that theres like 3 good ones. But its not always easy to find. I just honestly dont agree with recommending iams as an overall brand since the majority isnt very good. Only ever recommend specific ones that your sure are good quality.
05-15-2019 02:04 AM
HappyHedgehogs I use Iams adult cat food for my hedgehogs. They love any of the meat flavoured ones. Just stay away from the fish! The Protein and Fat levels are very good in Iams, and I have found it to be a good "staple" for hedgehogs. With living in the UK I was unsure of brands at first, but by doing a bit of kibble shopping and looking at the backs of packets, I found that for me Iams is the best. It's a good quality cat food, but for a reasonable price. But I would say to stay away from specific "hedgehog food" and other cheap brands as often the quality of this has a big affect on Hedgehog's diet. The fat and protein levels are almost guaranteed to be wrong. It's like us eating MacDonald's every day! Hope that helps 😁
05-14-2019 10:43 PM
zoinks It's totally fine Holly's Helper! I don't think you're hijacking at all, I was actually considering James Well-beloved Housecat myself but was turned off by the Tomato Pomace as I heard this can be dangerous for hogs?

We've been told by my Mother that we absolutely must include an indoor cat kibble to reduce smell or she'll kick up a fuss and we're having a very hard time finding one that doesn't have ingredients we've been warned against or an excessive amount of filler-

So far what we've decided on is the Arden Grande and Wainwrights as the bulk of the mix with a very small amount of Wellness CORE Sterilised Adult Grain-Free Cat food as while it's high in fillers and is definitely not as nutritious as we'd like it's the only one we've found that doesn't include potentially dangerous ingredients... If anyone can suggest a better indoor cat food I'd be forever grateful!!
05-08-2019 10:13 AM
Emc I think there's a little confusion happening in this thread. Meat meal is not the same as a named meal of animal origin; i.e chicken meal. Meat meal is a low quality ingredient that should be avoided when possible (and in most cases it is pretty easy to avoid).

Named meals like chicken meal, beef meal, is fine. Unspecified meals such as poultry meal, or meat meal, should be avoided.
05-08-2019 07:10 AM
Hollys helper Thank you Ria, that’s really helpful. As I could use another brand in my mix. I thought meatmeal as a complete no go as first ingredient so have been avoiding them.

Sorry for high jacking your thread Zoinks.
05-08-2019 03:53 AM
Ria Theres nothing wrong with meat meal as long as its named like chicken meal. Its more likely to be outweighed by other ingredients if its just a meat meal though.

Lilly's kitchen is good for wet food as treats but I've looked at a lot of the biscuits and they aren't the best for hogs, although they can be used. Applaws you can use any of them (check ingredients though and nutritional analysis) the senior ones are just lower in fat.
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