Blood in urine, excessive sneezing, lump in belly + what did vet say - Hedgehog Central Hedgehog pet care & owner forum
Hedgehog Central GalleryForum Archives Facebook Link

Like Tree40Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-06-2014, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default Blood in urine, excessive sneezing, lump in belly + what did vet say

Hello everyone,

I decided to share my and Pipka's story with other hedgehog owners in a case you are going through the same process.

Pipka was a happy hedgie, bought on Craigslist, the ad lied about her gender so might have lied about her age as well. If I believe the ad said truth, Pipka should be about 2 years old.

Everything was ok health wise, she was always little grumpy lil girl, but everything changed when my fiance and I came back from New York on December 23, 2013. She was not able to keep her front legs together, was falling, could not stand and could not walk, she stopped eating and when I put her on the couch, she was leaving tiny puddles of urine and also sticky trails. Later I realized those sticky trails were blood trails. She started sneezing in November, we first thought it was allergies as our then vet told us she might have some allergies.

Our previous vet did not seem to care that much about her but he kept charging us like he was delivering the best care in the world. We decided to see another vet, not very experienced with hegies, but this was emergency. He weighted her (0.4 pounds), did x-ray scan (twice) and found little gray area in her belly.

We did not pay much attention to that. Today I saw the vet again. He examined her, felt her through her whole body, I helped him to held her when he was examining her belly and he found quite a big lump there. I asked him to do x-ray once again. Once again, he found the same grey tissue in her belly. He told me that it might be nothing, but it may be tumor as well, as it feels as tumor.

He prescribed her antibiotics (Clavamox) for that sneezing and also blood in her urine, as there's still a blood (I bought Rapid Response Urinalysis Reagent Strips for checking blood in Pipka's urine).

Now regarding the dosage, the doctor prescribed her the smallest dosage (0.1 ml). My question is, is it ok dosage for hedgehog that weights 0.4 pounds? I want these antibiotics to help her sneezing at least as she sneezes a lot and I do not want to underdose her.

I believe that what Pipka is dealing with is a tumor. I love this girl very much, did not sleep the whole night and while we were waiting for the x-rays, I teared up. I will opt for the surgery, I just need to know whether there have been cases where hedgie came out alive. I know Aether's Relm did not as that poor baby already lost lots of blood and I do not want to loose her that quickly.

I am not sure what to do. If you please have experience with surgeries, lump that just turned out to be the soft tissue, please share it with me as I need lots of help right now. I love that little bundle more I could have every imagined and her health really got toll on me (I lost 6 kilograms). I am not here to complain about myself, I just need to hear from someone they put their hedgie under the scalpel and it went awesome.

If you please have any questions, suggestions, reach out to me. I would truly appreciate each reaction from you.

Have a wonderful day everyone.

Martina
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-06-2014, 08:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
Hooked on Hogs
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 8,950
Default

The girls I've had spayed have come through it great but surgery needs to be done asap. The longer they continue to loose blood, they can become anemic which makes the surgery more of a risk. Laser surgery is the best as it is faster with less blood loss and quicker healing.
Lilysmommy, Aether and Fifiiinka like this.
__________________
* * * Nancy * * *

Retired from breeding

Rescue contact for both the Hedgehog Welfare Society and the IHA
Rescued over 70 (and counting) hedgehogs needing a new home


http://freewebs.com/thehedgieden/
Nancy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2014, 09:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

For some reason I think she is in pain. She does not sleep, does not want to go to her blue fleece sleeping bag (it was her favorite) and she just lies like this with her eyes opened.
She does not lie on her side anymore, she is stretched on her belly.

Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

http://imgur.com/UEC3LmC
Nancy likes this.
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2014, 09:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

Nancy please can you give a price estimate on how much such laser surgery may cost please? I was asking around town for spay surgery, it's about $350 around here. I am not sure if my vet has such equipment though. I will ask. Thank you Nancy.
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2014, 09:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
Hooked on Hogs
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 8,950
Default

Prices vary from vet to vet. You would have to ask but it isn't a huge amount extra. The most important thing is to have a vet that is experienced with hedgehogs.
__________________
* * * Nancy * * *

Retired from breeding

Rescue contact for both the Hedgehog Welfare Society and the IHA
Rescued over 70 (and counting) hedgehogs needing a new home


http://freewebs.com/thehedgieden/
Nancy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2014, 01:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

Nancy,

she started taking antibiotics last Thursday and yesterday I found blood stains in her cage. I first thought she hurt her leg, inspected her thoroughly and found no cuts or bruises. 8 hours later I inspected her again, her belly was bloody and when I was washing her while she was laying on her back, I noticed blood was coming from her urethra.

I do not want to loose her during surgery, I've read and heard many stories when hedgies did not survive surgery because they lost lots of blood. She has been loosing blood for almost 2 months. I do not know any experienced doctor here in Vancouver, I have e-mailed 12 vet hospitals in the area which do accept small pets or exotic pets. I am not sure what to do. She keeps eating normally, I am just freaking out she may be in pain, I do not want her to suffer. I am truly not sure what to do here.

What would you suggest if you would be in my shoes please?
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2014, 08:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
Hooked on Hogs
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Kingston, Ontario
Posts: 8,950
Default

I would get the surgery done immediately. Well to be honest, I would have had it done when she was first bleeding and the grey area showed on xray.

Yes, there is a small risk of loosing her in surgery, but not doing surgery she is definitely going to die. That tumour could bleed out at any time. You are lucky in that the tumour has given you warning and time to get it removed. We aren't always that lucky. I've had a couple whose first indication of anything wrong was when they were bleeding out and it was too late to do anything but say goodbye.

Nobody can tell you what to do. This is your decision and a decision you are going to have to live with.
Lilysmommy, Aether and Fifiiinka like this.
__________________
* * * Nancy * * *

Retired from breeding

Rescue contact for both the Hedgehog Welfare Society and the IHA
Rescued over 70 (and counting) hedgehogs needing a new home


http://freewebs.com/thehedgieden/
Nancy is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2014, 03:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

Nancy, she already started bleeding. It comes where she pees from and it's all over her belly. I want get the surgery immediately, I am just asking all the questions here as my vet is not experienced with hedgehogs I am going to see him tomorrow and will try to convince him to remove tumour tomorrow. I am just worried it may be too late now.
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2014, 03:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 42
Default

We are in tomorrow, I will push for the surgery. I am just worried it may be too late now. It's my fault not getting her surgery sooner, but my doctor kept comforting me it was just a soft tissue. This is my first hedgie and I felt like I failed her. I hope she will survive the surgery. I do not want to loose her. But if I had to, I want it be through surgery so I know I did everything in my power to save her.
Fifiiinka is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hedgehog Central Hedgehog pet care & owner forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in




Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shaky front legs, falling head, traces of blood in urine, black "zit" on belly Fifiiinka Bleeding, Female 9 01-31-2014 05:26 PM
Excessive belly fur shedding AngelaH Skin 1 04-12-2013 01:19 PM
Blood in Urine/Dark Urine? formonsiuer Health 2 11-26-2012 06:04 AM
blood in urine- saw vet no change 4misstara Health 4 12-20-2011 09:45 AM
Blood in urine mdesai Health 7 09-23-2011 05:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:09 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
PetGuide.com
Basset Hound Forum Doberman Forum Golden Retriever Forum Beagle Forum
Boxer Forum Dog Forum Pit Bull Forum Poodle Forum
Bulldog Forum Fish Forum Havanese Forum Maltese Forum
Cat Forum German Shepherd Forum Labradoodle Forum Yorkie Forum Hedgehog Forum
Chihuahua Forum Cichlid Forum Dart Frog Forum Mice Breeder Forum