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Old 12-03-2008, 10:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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well i know they seem basic to you,. but those were my only two questions that weren't answered by websites, i know you take the male out 10 days before the earliest expected birth but i didn't know if he could hurt her in those 25 days and that you definitely don't let him near the mom or the babies after she has them,.i thought it could have made her hormones screw up so her body rejects them, and they never pointed any signs of pregnancy out,. they all just said "then put your hedgehog back in its cage, wait 35 days " i have no idea what to look for in a pregnant hedgehog, a growing belly I'm assuming, but I'm sure theres other ways to tell
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It's actually pretty difficult to tell if a hedgehog is pregnant. It's huge waiting game.
Some females will gain weight consistently throughout their pregnancy, some will gain sporadically, some won't gain at all.

The male should not be kept with the female at all. Generally, breeders will breed their hedgehogs and then immediately take the female and put her back in the cage. Leaving the male in the cage until ten days before a possible birth could cause a lot of stress on an expectant mother.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If there is something you aren't sure about, or could have something clarified, wait, until you find out.

If you are seriously interested in breeding find a reliable mentor, and get a pair of registered, pedigreed hedgies.
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I was curious as to how definite the "females should never be placed with males" statement is. Having had a male hedgehog who just passed away this Friday, I was told that I could take in a male and female from a friend of my Mother's. Though my Mother hasn't been able to talk to her, and thus, hasn't been able to find out much information concerning the two; she did say that the woman housed the two together because she "thought they were in love", for lack of a better word. And by "being in love", she has housed them in the same cage and they are ALWAYS together. No fighting, no qualms, no rough housing of any kind. Though I'm not sure if they are spayed or neutered, is this relatively common? If I do end up getting them, should I separate them in two cages?

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Old 12-09-2008, 09:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The mother could have been constantly becoming pregnant, giving birth, male eats the baby, gets prego again, and the process continues. Are they sexed properly?

It is an ABSOLUTE no-no to keep them together. It's likely their health is already affected by this poor husbandry, and won't live too long. Two separate cages are a must, and you can hope that they were simply sexed incorrectly.



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The mother could have been constantly becoming pregnant, giving birth, male eats the baby, gets prego again, and the process continues. Are they sexed properly?

It is an ABSOLUTE no-no to keep them together. It's likely their health is already affected by this poor husbandry, and won't live too long. Two separate cages are a must, and you can hope that they were simply sexed incorrectly.
As far as I'm aware, neither the male nor the female has bred. The woman got the two a week after I received mine; which was sometime in early July. Meaning that if she did get pregnant from having been in the same cage as the male, she would have surely given birth by now. The only thing is, is that she hasn't. And it's been 5 months. From the information I have received, there seem to be no problems between the two. They're just simply always together.
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With them having been together for 5 months the female will have given birth...at least once if not more. With the male in the same cage either he or the female would have eaten them right after birth..there would have been nothing left to see. The owner wouldn't ever have seen the babies or known that she had them. If this is allowed to keep happening over and over it will kill the female in time. Either the female needs to be spayed or they need to be seperated or the female will die.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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As Nikki clarified, I meant the parents are continually eating the babies, and there is nothing left to see. I highly doubt they have NOT bred, being together so long. It isn't like the owner was there supervising 24/7 for the whole time, to tell they haven't.



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With them having been together for 5 months the female will have given birth...at least once if not more. With the male in the same cage either he or the female would have eaten them right after birth..there would have been nothing left to see. The owner wouldn't ever have seen the babies or known that she had them. If this is allowed to keep happening over and over it will kill the female in time. Either the female needs to be spayed or they need to be seperated or the female will die.
Like I said in the previous post, I am 99% sure she hasn't gotten pregnant. Whether that means that the female is spayed or the male neutered, I do not know. However, I do doubt that the owner wouldn't have realised that her hedgehog was pregnant; seeing as how she checks up on them regularly, and has 3 kids who do so, as well. :/ If the female is spayed/male neutered or even if the two are sexed incorrectly, which IS more than possible, is it common for the two to be on such good terms with each other? Or should I still keep them separated, despite them always staying together?
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Like I said in the previous post, I am 99% sure she hasn't gotten pregnant.
If one is spayed, then obviously there would be no babies. If they are not, then YES, there was babies and they didn't make it. If you read previous posts in this thread, sevaral people state that it is difficult to notice a hedgie's pregnacy, and some may go through the entire pregnacy and birth without any obvious signs. I know for a fact this happens with mice all the time, as I raise them, and one of my does will never change in appearance/weight/appetite, yet she still has her babies, nurses them, etc. and is a great mother.



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