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Old 07-31-2010, 06:26 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Well I know two generations of her lineage :P Her mom and dad .... and her grandma .... and her grandpa is kinda her dad also .... But we won't tell her that because it might devastate her for life o.o I know it would devastate me!!

But I can see your point. But I still want a male Mostly cause I really like them and because Kelly is having a hard time selling males and she's got a waiting list a mile long for females .... So it just makes more sense to go with a male o.o Since apparently they're so readily available.
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:31 PM   #72 (permalink)
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So this female in inbred? grandfather is also father?? even more reason to never breed her. If you're really serious about getting into breeding, buy a male and female from breeders where you know their background for numerous generations and that you know haven't been inbred.

If you do get a male from Kelly, please please please make sure that the two hedgies never meet, not even for a second. Its really not worth the risk, and even supervised they could end up mating, and even if they don't, meeting will just frustrate them and cause the female to ovulate for no reason.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:09 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Yes, if you are considering breeding, get an unrelated pair with good lineage.

Breeding is expensive if something goes wrong. Until you can afford what could be as much as $1000 vet bill at a moments notice, don't even think about it. When things go wrong they go wrong fast and need to be treated fast.

Since you live near Kelly, if she can't sell males, what makes you think you would be able to? On average, there are more males born than females. I wonder why she can't sell males? I've always found that the majority of people don't really care what sex it is.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:47 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I don't think it's called inbred when it's with parents. It's called cross breeding. In animals at least. Now a sibling to a sibling would be inbred. ((I breed reptiles ... somewhat.)) Inbreeding brings out the bad traits ... Cross breeding actually brings out the good traits that people want to keep. I dunno if the same goes for hedgehogs, but as far as I know, with any other animal that's how it goes.

And don't worry. Like I said, I wouldn't ever breed unless I knew something about it first. With any pair of hedgies. And Kelly lives about an 1.5-2 hours away from me, and I think she's mostly selling to other would-be breeders. The people at the pet store who all bought hedgehogs never cared what sex they were unless they had a specific name set in mind for it. Totally different crowd from Baton Rouge to Slidell/New Orleans though. TOTALLY different. BUT LIKE I SAID: I would NOT breed unless I knew something about it first.
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You are talking about line breeding. Yes, line breeding can bring out good traits but it can also bring out bad traits and doubles the risk of WHS being passed on if it is in the lineage. Line breeding requires long clean lineages with no hereditary or familial diseases, defects, or undesirable traits.

Breeding a petstore hedgie to it's parent, grandparent or sibling is NOT line breeding. That is nothing more than inbreeding and the risk of genetic diseases, deformities etc is high.

Of course people buying from petstores rarely care what sex they are getting. They are the people that usually buy on impulse, knowing nothing about the animal and depend on minimum wage, know nothing petstore employees to guide them. A petstore situation is not what you use to judge the market for hedgehogs in your area.

People who buy from breeders usually want and deserve to have a well bred pet and a breeder who is knowledgeable about the species. There are way too many backyard breeders around breeding petstore and rescue hedgehogs. They don't know enough about hedgehogs that they should be owning one let alone breeding. Knowledge comes from experience and owning one or two hedgehogs for a couple of months does not give either knowledge or experience.

If you want to breed, research, own a couple hedgehogs for a few years and learn about the species. Then buy a quality breeding pair and do it ethically, responsibly and be reputable. We have enough backyard breeders out there already. Don't become another one.
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