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nphedgehogs · 10-28-2009, 03:20 PM

Just curious how to determine pinto markings. I have read topics that state "high white" quite a bit, just wondering what that means. We have a pinto boy that is for sale and from the middle of his back forward is dark, and the back half of him is white. I will try to get a good picture of his marking to post.

Also, our little 3 1/2 month old female that we can't determine her color is not getting any darker. I did post pictures recently in another topic. Her nose is light brown, her quills are a light pale cream/orange in color.[attachment=0:1ghqvytx]Poppy.jpg[/attachment:1ghqvytx]

Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts. We have been told apricot, champagne, and a light cinnicot.

LizardGirl · 10-28-2009, 03:50 PM

I'm not sure about the color of your little girl. She is adorable though!

"High pinto" though is just a stupid way of some breeders trying to make certain hedgies look special. There is no difference. Pinto is pinto, not high pinto, tobiano pinto, or anything like that. It's like calling a syrian hamster a "teddy bear" hamster, it's just a marketing ploy to make them sound more desirable and to make more money off of them. :/

krbshappy71 · 10-28-2009, 04:01 PM

Good to know, LizardGirl. This reminds me, I wanted to read up on coloring. I saw another person post that "salt & pepper" wasn't a correct term either.

Still working on my ADOS. (attention deficit oooh shiny! syndrome)
**edit** Oh wow, ok reading up on colors was a big mistake, I WANT THEM ALL NOW. Kidding, I love my two babies but wow what a variance and such cute pictures on the Hedgehog Central site! Oh and I don't know what I saw about salt&pepper but its listed there as a color. *shrug*

I'm most attracted to the dark masked little guys, reminds me of raccoons I think. Too cute.

nphedgehogs · 10-28-2009, 05:35 PM

Thank you LG for explaining that. It helps knowing when someone is speaking of High White Pinto that it is just a marketing ploy with people looking to make more money and it is no different than any other Pinto Marked Hedghog.

LizardGirl · 10-28-2009, 07:48 PM

Haha, no problem. It's just a pet peeve to see some breeders trying to get extra money out of a hedgie that has the exact same type of marking, only happened to get more of it.

Salt and pepper is a color, but it is extremely rare. I don't even know if the picture listed there is an actual salt and pepper, looks too light to me.

**Nancy** · 10-28-2009, 08:15 PM

Actually a high white pinto is different than a pinto. A high white pinto means they have a large amount of white on them as opposed to a pinto that have smaller pinto markings. They are all pintos but high white describes more white or mostly white.

**LarryT** · 10-28-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy

Actually a high white pinto is different than a pinto. A high white pinto means they have a large amount of white on them as opposed to a pinto that have smaller pinto markings. They are all pintos but high white describes more white or mostly white.

Is high white pinto and Uber pinto the same?

**Nancy** · 10-28-2009, 09:33 PM

I don't know. I've never heard of uber pinto before.

LizardGirl · 10-28-2009, 09:55 PM

Uber pinto is the same as saying tobiano pinto, I believe.

**LarryT** · 10-28-2009, 10:12 PM

Thanks LG its confusing

This is what i read in a few different places
"Uber Pinto - This is another pattern and is a form of albinism. If an animal has more than 50% white quills or has unusual pinto face markings we consider this an "Uber" pinto."

10-28-2009, 03:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
nphedgehogs Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 45	What is the difference between.... Just curious how to determine pinto markings. I have read topics that state "high white" quite a bit, just wondering what that means. We have a pinto boy that is for sale and from the middle of his back forward is dark, and the back half of him is white. I will try to get a good picture of his marking to post. Also, our little 3 1/2 month old female that we can't determine her color is not getting any darker. I did post pictures recently in another topic. Her nose is light brown, her quills are a light pale cream/orange in color.[attachment=0:1ghqvytx]Poppy.jpg[/attachment:1ghqvytx] Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts. We have been told apricot, champagne, and a light cinnicot. __________________ Northern Plains Hedgehogs http://www.nphedgehogs.com USDA Licensed Breeder located in South Dakota and serving the upper Midwestern states. We strive to produce healthy, quality hedgehogs that are well-socialized that make excellent pets.

10-28-2009, 03:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
LizardGirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 5,136	Re: What is the difference between.... I'm not sure about the color of your little girl. She is adorable though! "High pinto" though is just a stupid way of some breeders trying to make certain hedgies look special. There is no difference. Pinto is pinto, not high pinto, tobiano pinto, or anything like that. It's like calling a syrian hamster a "teddy bear" hamster, it's just a marketing ploy to make them sound more desirable and to make more money off of them. :/ __________________ West Coast Hedgehogs - Breeder in Corvallis, Oregon -Download Our Complete Hedgehog Care Book For Free- Check out our Supply page for the best deals on all your hedgehog needs! Cake Top Wheels - Hedgie Bags - Food Mix - Feeder Insects - Dietary Supplements - Care Kits - Heat Setups - And More!

10-28-2009, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
krbshappy71 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 902	Re: What is the difference between.... Good to know, LizardGirl. This reminds me, I wanted to read up on coloring. I saw another person post that "salt & pepper" wasn't a correct term either. Still working on my ADOS. (attention deficit oooh shiny! syndrome) edit Oh wow, ok reading up on colors was a big mistake, I WANT THEM ALL NOW. Kidding, I love my two babies but wow what a variance and such cute pictures on the Hedgehog Central site! Oh and I don't know what I saw about salt&pepper but its listed there as a color. shrug I'm most attracted to the dark masked little guys, reminds me of raccoons I think. Too cute. __________________ Riley loved me. Much likes me. Whyte Darkness is a large, huffing, popping ball of albino white spines, but I love him anyway.

10-28-2009, 05:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
nphedgehogs Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 45	Re: What is the difference between.... Thank you LG for explaining that. It helps knowing when someone is speaking of High White Pinto that it is just a marketing ploy with people looking to make more money and it is no different than any other Pinto Marked Hedghog. __________________ Northern Plains Hedgehogs http://www.nphedgehogs.com USDA Licensed Breeder located in South Dakota and serving the upper Midwestern states. We strive to produce healthy, quality hedgehogs that are well-socialized that make excellent pets.

10-28-2009, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
LizardGirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 5,136	Re: What is the difference between.... Haha, no problem. It's just a pet peeve to see some breeders trying to get extra money out of a hedgie that has the exact same type of marking, only happened to get more of it. Salt and pepper is a color, but it is extremely rare. I don't even know if the picture listed there is an actual salt and pepper, looks too light to me. __________________ West Coast Hedgehogs - Breeder in Corvallis, Oregon -Download Our Complete Hedgehog Care Book For Free- Check out our Supply page for the best deals on all your hedgehog needs! Cake Top Wheels - Hedgie Bags - Food Mix - Feeder Insects - Dietary Supplements - Care Kits - Heat Setups - And More!

10-28-2009, 08:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nancy Hooked on Hogs Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 8,950	Re: What is the difference between.... Actually a high white pinto is different than a pinto. A high white pinto means they have a large amount of white on them as opposed to a pinto that have smaller pinto markings. They are all pintos but high white describes more white or mostly white. __________________ * * * Nancy * * * Retired from breeding Rescue contact for both the Hedgehog Welfare Society and the IHA Rescued over 70 (and counting) hedgehogs needing a new home http://freewebs.com/thehedgieden/

10-28-2009, 09:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nancy Hooked on Hogs Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 8,950	Re: What is the difference between.... I don't know. I've never heard of uber pinto before. __________________ * * * Nancy * * * Retired from breeding Rescue contact for both the Hedgehog Welfare Society and the IHA Rescued over 70 (and counting) hedgehogs needing a new home http://freewebs.com/thehedgieden/

10-28-2009, 09:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
LizardGirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 5,136	Re: What is the difference between.... Uber pinto is the same as saying tobiano pinto, I believe. __________________ West Coast Hedgehogs - Breeder in Corvallis, Oregon -Download Our Complete Hedgehog Care Book For Free- Check out our Supply page for the best deals on all your hedgehog needs! Cake Top Wheels - Hedgie Bags - Food Mix - Feeder Insects - Dietary Supplements - Care Kits - Heat Setups - And More!

10-28-2009, 10:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
LarryT Master Breeders Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 5,914	Re: What is the difference between.... Thanks LG its confusing This is what i read in a few different places "Uber Pinto - This is another pattern and is a form of albinism. If an animal has more than 50% white quills or has unusual pinto face markings we consider this an "Uber" pinto." __________________ http://www.carolinastormhedgehogs.com Carolina Storm Wheels, est. February 2010, over 10,000 sales to date, thanks for your support!

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