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Old 09-02-2009, 12:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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The PJ's Pet Center near my area is awful! There are two hedgehogs in one cage and all they have is water, food (if you consider Pretty Pets as food) and an igloo. Nothing else. The dogs, cats, ferrets and parrots don't really have a nice life there either. And I see many of their syrian hamsters dying because they are caged together.

Now, my PetSmart on the other hand, I really like how they take care of their pets. All they really sell are hamsters and the occasional gerbils. They hamsters are taken care of properly and they are named correctly as well. They don't have any animals that require a lot of care, such as rabbits, ferrets, parrots, and of course, hedgehogs. And of course there's the adoption center as well. Too bad there isn't a lot of supplies there (despite the fact that it is huge)...
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Generally since a brand of food says its hedgehog food, they will suggest it, since its cheap and under most people's understanding hedgehogs are herbivors... Which is completely wrong. Most people also call them rodents... Guess what wrong again.

If I were to make a general classification of animal family a hedgehog belongs to, it would be a cross between a dog and a lizard (or at least mine behaves like one sometimes). Hedgehogs are Insectivors in the wild, but most people call them rodents cause of their size.
Also the rules I mentioned earlier, there is no punishment for not following them really... I am working with the boss of PJ's in my area to improve the conditions, since she wants to cooperate, while others may take me to court and require a lawyer and somebody who has been breeding hedgehogs for a while. Nancy I think you would qualify, though I don't know right now, and sadly I have more important issues to take care of, like the cost of everything and the cost of a new car since mine was broken into last night and many things were destroyed... At least all I had in there was a bus schedual and a really old phone book (1995).
Nancy and Reaper would be the only breeders that I believe would qualify as back up for court date, they say you must have at least 5 years of breeding hedgehogs... I don't even have that yet, though once I get a larger house I will be a breeder in my area. Currently there is no laws about taking care of Exotic pets, being Rodents, hedgehogs, or lizards. There are some laws about dogs and cats, though they haven't changed for a while and have never been changing under new research cause the laws are much older than all of us here, (unless somebody is 100 years+) though it would take a lot to change the govnt that don't know much... Any who enough about that, who is the most experienced breeder here?
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Reaper isn't a breeder.

Nancy and Deneen are the most experienced breeders on here. Both of which are very busy with things in their lives right now... There are other breeders but really it takes years to get as much experience as they have. You think you know everything, but over the years you add more realizations to the pile and wonder how you could have survived not knowing those things.

I can understand people saying they are herbivores, even if they are technically insectivores. Wild hedgies also eat small animals, leftovers from carcasses, and fruits/veggies.



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Any who enough about that, who is the most experienced breeder here?
That would be Deneen (Hedgiepets) first and then me. We have both been breeding the same length of time but she has had far more litters than I have.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I can understand people saying they are herbivores, even if they are technically insectivores. Wild hedgies also eat small animals, leftovers from carcasses, and fruits/veggies.
I would think that if you are going to misinterpret their diet it would make more sense to call them omnivores than herbivores. At least that is what their diet looks most like in captivity.
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We are always learning things new every day, and some more than others. Its impossible to truly know everything there is to know about hedgehogs. Personally I agree with the Omnivor statement and I also agree that many people still follow what the pet stores say about hedgehogs.... Though when I asked about hedgehogs Samatha (manager of the store) said to check out the website, which I thought was kinda weird that they weren't really using many breeder's advice... At least give credit for some trying to change... I plan to become a breeder in the future, but right now I can't make any guesses when just yet, maybe 5 years, maybe more, maybe less... I really don't know....
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LOL, my bad. I have been really not reading things right lately... gyaku is right about calling them "herbivores" being wrong. For some reason I saw herbivores and though omnivores, which is what I posted thinking. Duhhhh! *smacks head*



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Its ok Lizardgirl, everyone makes mistakes...
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