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Old 02-06-2015, 12:22 AM   #111 (permalink)
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I'm glad to hear from you guys! I've been wondering how you all are. Boo to hibernation attempt, but very glad that Sebastian's mom remembered exactly what to do. I hope she stays toasty warm from now on! And I hope Willow gets over her ear infection soon as well.
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Old 02-06-2015, 07:27 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Good morning Kelsey!
Jason slept on the couch last night and checked on her every two hours. He confirmed a suspicion I have had for a while about our Sebastian. She is a lazy hog. Not much running. Mostly she spent her night going from one fleece layer to another, probably because she was being poked at every 2 hours
However her belly remained warm all night. Her behavior was normal. And since last night was pinky night, she ate her entire pinky treat, and 3 mealworms along with a couple of bites of kibble.
Her cage has remained a steady 79 degrees since I went to bed at 10.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't cool temps that caused this, but rather a sudden change in temperature. Night before last, the day it was 50 degrees out, when we checked the cages after work they were all at 80-82 degrees. When we checked them last night, they were all at 77, right where we want them. Except Sebastian obviously had a hard time with the shift. It must have happened too suddenly for her.
I'm pretty sure recovery will go well as long as the CHE works steadily. To ensure she gets enough food I'm going to make sure she gets food she is guaranteed to eat instead of pick at. She's a picker, our momma hog. But she loves her raw food. The last thing anyone wants is a secondary infection brought on by low immunity.
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Old 02-06-2015, 01:25 PM   #113 (permalink)
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I love following your facebook posts but it's nice to see your on here too! That temperature drop was crazy for us too! It was sooo cold for just that one day. Back up now, which is nice. Good job on taking care of your baby!
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Old 02-10-2015, 08:14 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Smile Happy Birthday!

The babes are 1 year old today.
I swear to you, I never could have imagined this. I give thanks for them every day and love them all more than I ever thought possible. They have changed my life and made me a better person.
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Old 02-11-2015, 01:17 PM   #115 (permalink)
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I LOVE the pictures on FB, but I like seeing you here too.

You guys are great hedgie parents--and great parents to the rest of the crew.

Funny how hedgies change your life.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:18 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Thank you so much. It's nice to feel wanted by someone with 2 feet
Work has been crazy, and add in 4 legged responsibility and I have just had no time. Hopefully I'll be able to drop in more often soon.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:43 PM   #117 (permalink)
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January 28, 2017
Dear Pet Journal,

Well, it really has been a very long time! But not much exciting has really happened. Well, thatís not true, Loki gave us a big scare last May and was hospitalized for kidney disease/ kidney failure. But they were able to fix him up and heís doing much better now.

But nothing has really happened on the hedgehog front so much until about 2 weeks ago. Sebastian and Gayle and Beauregard and Tiberius and Gabriel are all doing great! But TitanÖ not so much.

We took Titan to the vet two weeks ago because he was having problems moving his back legs. At first we all hoped he had just hurt his back and needed some medications and rest. But I noticed a week ago that he was still having real problems moving his back legs and when he went back to the vet this morningÖ Well, we got a pretty bad diagnosis. The vet believes, after limb testing and observation, that our Titan may have, probably has, Wobbly Hedgehog Syndrome. Onset in older hedgehogs it tends to move quickly. We and the Dr all know that this diagnosis is not able to be confirmed without a necropsy. But we have a slightly paralyzed, probably going to be more paralyzed hedgehog on our hands, and WHS or not, he needs special care.

Iím thinking since he cannot run on his wheel anymore, and he no longer has medical restrictions, that we are going to take up swimming. Also he is going to have to become a free roamer. None of the hogs are free roamers because I am a horrible housekeeper. But that is going to need to change, at least some. Itís the only way he is going to be able to get exercise.

Keep a close eye on his food intake, make sure he gets exercise. Snuggle him as often as we can.

And figure out when the time is.

When is the time? When will I know? Right now he is bright and alert and inquisitive and was scooting himself all over the vets tile floors just this morning even with his dragging legs.

Will he just tell me? Will I be able to listen? When is his quality of life no longer exceeding his pain? Is he even in pain? Or do things just not work anymore and he is adjusting?

What happens when he just cant walk anymore? Canít masturbate? We are thinking about making him a little wheelchair for him to run in on the kitchen floor. Will his heart stop working before his front legs? Will he stop curling up?

We might have 30 days. We might have 9 to 12 months. I have him on Vitamin E, of course.

I never expected this from Titan. We adopted him from a forum member here, and he is a bred hog. I expected it from Sabs, or one of the kids. Pet store fare. But not from Titan. I guess that makes it even harder.

Heís just over 3. WHS isnít supposed to hit this late. Except it seems it does. And at this point it moves hard and fast.

Iím heartbroken already and heís sleeping just fine in the room over right now, along with 5 other perfectly healthy hedgehogs.

How can I be the best guardian I can be? I know there is *nothing* I could have done to prevent this. But how do I ensure he has the best rest of his time as possible? I canít miss work, and I already have trouble keeping up with everyone as it is.

And most importantlyÖ when do I know it is time to let him go? I donít want to cut him short, but I refuse to see him suffer needlessly, and hopelessly. Where do I find that marker in his road?
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:41 PM   #118 (permalink)
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Oh honey, I'm glad to hear from you again,but I wish this wasn't why.

I'll tell you a story, I don't know if it will help, but it might.

This past September we had to let my dog go. We had only had her for a year and a half. We had adopted her from a rescue and discovered that she was actually several years older than we thought she was. But she seemed to be in good health and she was a good girl. So, fast forward to July last year. She was perfectly fine one day, and the next she had a strange head tilt. We though, "oh, maybe she has an ear infection", so off to the vet we went. He checked her over, but said it was neurological. Her ears were clean and blood work came back perfect. He said we could go to the neurologist (and hour away, ugh), but she could potentially learn to adapt and be fine. We chose to wait and see. We knew she was at least 9 at this point, and maybe older. Going to a specialist just didn't make sense for her. Anyway, instead of better, she got progressively worse. She got to the point where she could no longer stand and had to be carried outside several times a day to potty and we had to hold her head up to eat and drink. But oddly, she was still happy. But we knew that it was better to go a minute too soon than a minute too late. So, since she was still happy and we needed to schedule time off from work to do it, we decided we would go the following week. Just a few days before the scheduled day, she completely lost the will to live. There was an incident (don't want to go into details here, it's still fresh) and you could see how much she was suffering. So, despite our best intentions, we still ended up going too late and it's my biggest regret about the whole thing.

I know it sucks and it's hard, but I think you'll know when it's time. Just don't wait to act on it. Let him go while he's still happy and has a reasonable quality of life.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:32 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Ya, SD, this is exactly what I want to avoid. At the same time, I donít want to send him too soon. Its going to be a tough line because he is such a bright little hog.
In the meantime, Saturday night, as I was crying my eyes out, we cut up a box and a small boat ton of fleece into strips and gave him a good sized dig box in place of his wheel. Heís not impressed. Nor is he impressed with the stuffed plush pickle we gave him. Mostly he is impressed with being left alone to sleep.
Last night though, we began swimming lessons. A good deep tub of water, where if he stretches his little legs his toes just reach the bottom. Man, he paddled those little legs like crazy! But he canít stay upright on his own. We are trying to figure out how to modify a pool noodle as a flotation device so he can be self mobile, but until we get the noodle, (which are hard to get in January) and can get it figured out, we will just hold him to paddle his heart out.
Gayle also took a turn around the pool and her fat self apparently did a fantastic job! I missed it because I was drying Titan off and trying to get his ears dried out.
After that Titan had some floor time in the kitchen and was visited by 3 cats and they all had a little party. It was a good time.
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Old 02-04-2017, 09:14 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Well, itís been a week since the vets diagnosis of WHS for our Titan, and 3 weeks since I noticed symptoms of something not right.

Boy, have we been busy! Since Titan isnít on medical restrictions anymore (the first 2 weeks they had thought he had hurt his back) we have been doing a decent bit of exercise. More than Iím used to anyway!

Titan has taken up swimming and we have cleaned up the kitchen floor for him to have a large smooth unhindered surface to move around on. Along with Titan, Beauregard and Gayle and Sebastian have all taken a dip into the deep end of the pool. Beau and Gayle, butterballs that they are, took to it with no problem! Sebastian did not enjoy it AT ALL.

Swimming seems to cheer Titan and his demeanor is usually pleasant afterwards. None of my hogs have been cuddlers in the past, however Titan has allowed me to rub his face, ears, feets, and belly in the past week and my heart just cannot take it. It has had to grow several sizes in order to hold on to this extra love that wells every time I get more than I expected from one of the kids.

Jason made a wheelchair for Titan, but Titan doesnít need it yet. He continues to simply walk out of it. Wobbly and tottery, but walking all the same. Iíll take it.

I havenít seen any major down turns. His limited mobility remains about the same. He is still eating with no problem. He remains interested and inquisitive.

Thursday night he had a bad night, didnít want to swim, didnít want to walk, didnít want to do much of anything, even snuggles were questionable. But yesterday he was back to his new normal. I expect this is how things are going to go for a while. Good days and bad days, just like anyone else.

Because he is not running we have begun to supplement pumpkin into his diet along with baby food meats. I want to be sure that his bowels are running fine. He still gets plenty of kibble though so donít worry about that.

This week we had another milestone.

Thursday Feb 2nd was also Sebastianís 3rd Gotcha day! 3 years since that little lady was brought home from the pet store! And she is doing just fine. Completely unaware of how she turned our lives upside down and inside out! The 10th of Feb will be the other kids 3rd birthday. Just wow. We are living on borrowed time now, but with the exception of Titanís special needs, everyone is healthy and happy, if 2 of them are pretty fat! I blame their hedgehog father because everyone gets exactly the same amount of kibble from exactly the same blend every day.

Today is Saturday and itís poop moving day. Fleece changes and washed and wheel cleaning and litter boxes. Literally all the things required to move poop out of the house. So, I best get to it.


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