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Old 09-10-2019, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ah no worries, if you can’t find it that’s okay - I’ll try to do some digging myself!

But do you have a source for the cooking/drying process destroying chitin in insects?... I’m not trying to prove you wrong haha; I am genuinely curious, because it’s a topic that I’ve always wondered about. I have a Leopard Gecko, and hamsters, so I have other insect-eating species and the only argument for being against dried insects in those communities that I’ve heard is like you said; they’re dry, so they can cause impaction issues and overall have poor nutrition. But it’s been only the hedgehog community that I’ve heard the argument for cooking processes destroying chitin - but I’ve never found the source.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I asked the person who told me but they lost the link as well. I think some digging is required, but I do remember the microwaves can remove chitin, so I'm not sure if its the heat or the microwaves that is affecting the chitin.
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It just seems to be a lot of conflicting info because if the chitin is the hardest part of the insect to digest, and assuming cooking breaks down the chitin (or even removes it entirely)... then shouldn't this make cooked easier to digest and like, totally go against 'dried insects are harder to digest'?...

I think the only issue with dried insects is when theyre fed in large quantities and especially if already part of a dry diet (kibble), then they can lead to issues with impaction. Personally, I think the whole "dried insects have no enzymes so makes them harder to digest" is likely a myth that someone passed along as fact along the way (unless anyone has sources to prove otherwise; in which case, i'd love to read them!).

Anyway, i have no idea how i got here haha and am conscious of dragging this off topic. For the record; im not advocating dried insects being a replacement for live, so i hope it doesnt come across as that!
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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We seem very good at going off topic recently! But I'll see if I can find anything just because I want to know now! And then make a new thread about it!
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Well then 😂 yes, in the summer, our house can get up to 39 degrees Celsius, so they might breed then.
And thank you for the answer on the water crystals! I’ll buy some!

And since all the information, should I lower Igor’s worm intake to 7 a week? Just until I got the new Orijen food?
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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14 a week is fine for the diet he is has. Maybe look around and see if you can buy earth worm or calci worm(black solider fly larvea) to help balance it more they are good for calcium.
Earthworms are also great for protein.
And silkworms, they have an enzyme called serrapeptase which helps with absorbing calcium.

If you add them and once you change the biscuit to the origen then you can either keep to 14 week or use a bit more, but I'd still keep them restricted. To a small portion of his diet.
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We just have one shop which sells insects here where I live..and my mom said no to shipping from other cities. The shop only has crickets, mealworms and dubias.

When I go over to Orijen, is it ok if I do it 21 a week? 3 every night?
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Old 09-11-2019, 01:59 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Yea - gut load your roaches with high calcium veg like kale and broccoli to balance their Ca:P better.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:24 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Ok, thank you!
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