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Old 01-18-2010, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So apples seeds are known to contain hydrogen cyanide and is considered toxic to small animals.

However hedgehogs are known snake killers and have resistance to poisons. They also eat insects such as millipedes that contain toxins.

"... a person who tried to poison a hedgehog with opium, hydrocyanic acid, arsenic or mercury bichloride usually failed in his attempts because of the great resisting power of this animal."

"... the hedgehog will withstand a dose of potassium cyanide six times as great as that necessary to kill a cat in a few minutes..."

"... the hedghog was found to resist the injection of powdered cantharides in a quantity seven times as great as that which infallibly kills a god and greater also than the lethal dose for a man"

"... a much larger dose of alcohol must be used in order to intoxicate a hedgehog than is required to obtain the same effect in the rabbit or even in the dog."

So I'm wondering if apples seeds aren't actually dangerous to hedgehogs. I mean I'm not suggesting anyone should go try it out or anything, but it's just a speculation.

Though perhaps domesticated hedgehogs have lost this immunity, or perhaps it is a resistance that is built up over a lifetime of eating such toxic creatures.

Any thoughts?

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Old 01-18-2010, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My only thoughts on it is that to me it doesn't matter either way because I'll never take the chance with my hedgie
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Seeds are a chocking hazards
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Seeds of any kind aren't good for hedgehogs anyway, even if they could resist poisons, so taking the chance of a choking hazard would be dangerous, I beleive.
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Default Re: Apple Seeds oh no?

Larry is right, seeds are choking hazards and hedgies are not rodents, they have no desire to go gnawing up seeds. I highly doubt a hedgehog would waste his time with apple seeds.



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Old 01-18-2010, 04:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Apple Seeds oh no?

I think the OPs question more pertains to the toxicity of apple seeds (or say another 'toxic' food), not the choking hazard. That said, the choking hazard is a clear hazard. It does raise an interesting conversation starter though on hedgies immunity to toxins compared to other animals.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This seems like a very odd first post from this person. I am gonna lock this.
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It's not locked.
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't understand why you feel the need to lock the post? The OP is not suggesting to feed apple seeds but starting a conversation on regular toxicity & how hedgehogs handle toxicity. If you are reading something that I am not, please let me know.
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Default Re: Apple Seeds oh no?

I have to agree, that the the post was probably just trying to start a conversation about what is now toxic to hedgehogs and some questions about their immune system.
I, myself am very curious about that.
I don't see why you should lock this, although I do think if the main reason of this post was our hedgies immunity to some toxic things, then she should create a new post about it, cause reading the "apple seeds oh no!" made me think this is about feeding apple seed to ur hedgies, which is dangerous and some one might get the wrong idea.
so I would just start a new post about there abitity to eat for example a poisenous snake and it will not have an effect on them.
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