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Old 08-03-2011, 03:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How do I make him FAT?

I don't mean "can't roll into a ball fat", but fatter than he is right now. And right now, Misha is skinny-teeny. He's even looking a bit ) (, which is not so good.

He's almost 4 months old, and weighs 230-245g (it fluctuates).

He'd been eating a bit less because of the heat wave, but his weight didn't change. But, last week he was at my parents' air-conditioned house, and ate a whole lot: 3-4 crickets, 6-7 mealies and 40-60 kibble a night (Blue Buffalo adult, 18% fat). I thought that, FOR SURE he'll come back nice and fatter. Nope. Weighed in at 235g.

So, should I try to make him gain weight? And if so, HOW??? Any advice much appreciated!
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do I make him FAT?

Couldn't you feed him a different food with a higher fat content?
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do I make him FAT?

I'd feed more mealworms, and a higher fat food.

These are the only two I can think of with higher fat, that don't have protein higher then 34%.

Chicken Soup For The Pet Lovers Soul Kitten Formula:
Protein: 34%
Fat: 22%
Fiber: 4%
First 5: Chicken, chicken meal, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), turkey meal

Chicken Soup For The Pet Lovers Soul Adult Formula:
Protein: 30%
Fat: 20%
Fiber: 4%
First 5: Chicken, chicken meal, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), turkey meal

But I've found that feeding plenty of mealworms (12-15), helped one of my guys gain weight, without switching to a higher fat food

I lied... Here's some more!

Nutrience All Natural Kitten Growth
Protein: 33%
Fat: 20%
Fiber: 4%
First 5: Chicken meal, chicken, brown rice, dehulled barley, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid)

Nutrience Adult Supreme
Protein: 30%
Fat: 20%
Fiber: 3.5%
First 5: Chicken meal, chicken, brown rice, dehulled barley, oat groats

Nutrience Adult Duck, Fish & Brown Rice
Protein: 30%
Fat: 20%
Fiber: 3.5%
First 5: Duck meal, white fish, brown rice, dehulled barley, oat groats

Nutrience Adult Hairball
Protein: 30%
Fat: 20%
Fiber: 4.5%
First 5: Chicken meal, chicken, brown rice, dehulled barley, oat groats
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: How do I make him FAT?

Thank you for the suggestions! Misha's a picky eater, but I'll try to find the Chicken Soup kitten formula... 22% fat will hopefully make a difference.

And, I'm glad it's okay to feed more mealworms - I've been reluctant, because I already thought that 6-7 mealworms a night is too much, considering that many hedgehogs get only 4 or so every few days... but hey, is 15 is okay, Mishs sure won't complain

Thing is, when he eats more crickets and mealworms, he them eats less kibble that night. Did your do that too, or did your guy eat the same amount of kibble?
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Old 08-03-2011, 05:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Without as many mealworms he ate 65 kibbles a night, with the mealworms he at around 40.

Now he only gets about 6 mealworms a day, since he put a good amount of weight on and eats a food with 16% fat, and he's kept a stable weight for 3 months now. He only eats 15 kibbles a night now (by his choice), because I give him (and my other 2) plenty of other things throughout the day/night.

-A mixture of 4 Blue Buffalo foods (1 chicken flavored, 1 turkey flavored, 1 duck flavored, 1 extra fat).
-2 or 3 live crickets (I either rip the legs off and put them in the cage or leave the legs on and put them in the tub).
-10 crickets that are thawed and hidden in the cage for them to "hunt".
-About 4-6 live mealworms, as a treat when they unball.
-3 grasshoppers that are thawed and hidden in the cage for them to "hunt".
-1 Shell-less snail.
-2 frozen then thawed pinkies a week.
-1 Home made wet food ice cube (thawed). A different meat flavor everyday (chicken,turkey, venison, bison, rabbit, goat & duck)

So I'm actually surprised he eats any kibble at all

The 22% should help .
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Wow thats quite the diet canadienhedgie! I feel so lazy now lol.
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Default Re: How do I make him FAT?

try giving him lots of worms because worms have lots of fat in them especially wax worms
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Default Re: How do I make him FAT?

in addition to all the good info here...2 things:

1) feeding a kibble mix with varying protein levels & fat levels may help...adding fruits & veggies may as well. have you tried wet food or baby food? cooked meats? all of these are things that can add great variety to his diet & get his weight up *IF* that is needed.

2) also know that some hedgies are just small. my first hedgie, Henry will be 3 this year. he weighed 250g forever. for the last year, he has weighed 300g.

at 4 months, though i did not have a scale then, my guess is he might have weighed 200-225g...at most. he's just small. MissC's fantatisic Snarf was the same - always around 300-325g.

just as some are large...my hedgie Mac was a good weight at 575-600g, others are small. as long as Misha is healthy & happy...enjoy!
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Wow thats quite the diet canadienhedgie! I feel so lazy now lol.
Hahahaa, me too. Canadienhedgie, that's super impressive. Also, such a variety of insects! I like the "hunting" thawed crickets idea. I'll try that with some of the ones I have!
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in addition to all the good info here...2 things:

1) feeding a kibble mix with varying protein levels & fat levels may help...adding fruits & veggies may as well. have you tried wet food or baby food? cooked meats? all of these are things that can add great variety to his diet & get his weight up *IF* that is needed.

2) also know that some hedgies are just small. my first hedgie, Henry will be 3 this year. he weighed 250g forever. for the last year, he has weighed 300g.

at 4 months, though i did not have a scale then, my guess is he might have weighed 200-225g...at most. he's just small. MissC's fantatisic Snarf was the same - always around 300-325g.

just as some are large...my hedgie Mac was a good weight at 575-600g, others are small. as long as Misha is healthy & happy...enjoy!
Thanks for the ideas! Unfortunately, Misha's picky... he's annointed with every fruit, veggie, cooked chicken and baby food I've given him, but hasn't shown any interest in eating them. And I've tried. Repeatedly. But no luck.

You're right, he could be just small...he seems to be wheeling happily and sprawling happily, so I'm probably just being too worried. It's just sometimes I think his sides look a bit sunken in, which is what got me worried. But, he's not losing weight, so probably that's just his size. Thanks for the reassurance
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