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Old 10-15-2012, 12:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Barley drinking, dark spots on liner.

I posted a few days ago about Allen not drinking. He is however exercising and eating normal...
When I first got him the vet said its probably from stress but now I keep finding dark spots on his liner, and I thought it might be from running in his poo but I saw him pee the other day and it was a tiny dark yellow squirt.
I tried tap water, bottled water, even adding a little Gatorade to interest him but its not doing much at all. I've had him 3 weeks now.
One day there was a lot of dried liquid on his wheel but i think it might've been other stuff than pee.
His tail is getting yellow from it, he was on bedding at the breeder just shedding --but hes on fleece now.
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Could be a UTI, I'd Rey syringing some water to him if I were you, maybe its just dehydration
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I think that at this point you should take him back to the vet. He must be drinking something because otherwise he would be dead after 3 weeks (I would think) but he may need IV fluids...also, it could be an infection as was mentioned. You could try syringing water but I would not let this go on much longer.
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I would suggest getting a urinalysis done, and also a blood chemical analysis done.
The urinalysis(usually drawn directly from the bladder), will tell you if there's an overgrowth of bacteria, meaning a UTI.
The blood test will tell you if his kidneys are working properly.

You can chose to have the urine looked at first, and go from there, or just get both done all at once. The blood test will cost a bit more than the urine, which can be done in house and by a tech.

Just for dehydration testing sake, take a small pinch of skin(this can be done anywhere that there's no quills), and give a gentle pull away from the body. Then let go and see how fast the skin bounces back. On a normal hydrated animal, the skin will bounce back under 2 seconds(so pretty much immediately). If there's some dehydration going on, the skin will seem to "stick" for a bit, or be slower to bounce back. If you notice this, you should start syringing until you can take him to the vets.
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I would suggest getting a urinalysis done, and also a blood chemical analysis done.
The urinalysis(usually drawn directly from the bladder), will tell you if there's an overgrowth of bacteria, meaning a UTI.
The blood test will tell you if his kidneys are working properly.

You can chose to have the urine looked at first, and go from there, or just get both done all at once. The blood test will cost a bit more than the urine, which can be done in house and by a tech.

Just for dehydration testing sake, take a small pinch of skin(this can be done anywhere that there's no quills), and give a gentle pull away from the body. Then let go and see how fast the skin bounces back. On a normal hydrated animal, the skin will bounce back under 2 seconds(so pretty much immediately). If there's some dehydration going on, the skin will seem to "stick" for a bit, or be slower to bounce back. If you notice this, you should start syringing until you can take him to the vets.
I was able to syringe him and he glady drank 2 mls of water, then began spitting up after that so i stopped.
I also managed to pinch his skin and even with his squirmin it didnt react...
ill def make an appointment
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I also managed to pinch his skin and even with his squirmin it didnt react...
Are you saying the skin didn't bounce back? If so, it's more imperative you get him to the vet as soon as possible, as it will be an emergency. They can only survive for so long at a certain degree of dehydration.
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I also managed to pinch his skin and even with his squirmin it didnt react...
Are you saying the skin didn't bounce back? If so, it's more imperative you get him to the vet as soon as possible, as it will be an emergency. They can only survive for so long at a certain degree of dehydration.
Agreed, especially if he spit up the water. I would try giving him more, but more slowly. Give him .5 mL, let him rest a few minutes, give him another .5, rest another few minutes, etc. and see if he can keep it down then.
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I also managed to pinch his skin and even with his squirmin it didnt react...
Are you saying the skin didn't bounce back? If so, it's more imperative you get him to the vet as soon as possible, as it will be an emergency. They can only survive for so long at a certain degree of dehydration.
Agreed, especially if he spit up the water. I would try giving him more, but more slowly. Give him .5 mL, let him rest a few minutes, give him another .5, rest another few minutes, etc. and see if he can keep it down then.

I added a little water to his food and gave him 2 mealies to try and give him some moisture for the night. I have a vet appointment planned asap tomorrow.
Thank you both. Im worried sick
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How'd the vet appointment go?
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How'd the vet appointment go?
Okay, thanks.
They gave me antibiotics to get out bad bacteria, it may be a UTI I have to get a stool sample and go back in a week after the anitbiotics,
the vet told me to also add hedgehog food to the cat food but im weary.
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