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Old 10-03-2011, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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at school we have a hedgie named helen i go to school for kids who are gonna be exotic vets. so helen had her eyes removed because her former owner thought that was good since she had a bad eye infection my teacher isn't sure how old helen is but I'm concerned she, is loosing her quills like she has bald spots and she has really bad dry skin i bought some vitamin E for her dry skin do you have any ideas on how i can get her quills to go grow back the skin isn't inflamed or looks like it is bothered could it just be because of her being old ?!? she isn't anywhere near 6-8 months like the normal quill shed. please help the teacher said she has ben like this. if she can get better i will take her home for her to get better
im gonna start putting vitamin e on her for her dry skin
it can't be mites because she hasn't ben with any other animals
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If she is not doing well why doesn't your teacher take her to the vet?

She may have mites, need a diet change, have allergies, dry skin...really you have to just rule things out. Your teacher, who is supposed to be the responsible adult SHOULD be doing that. Advise her she needs to properly care for the hedgehog and see that she follows up, if not call the spca/humane society on her for neglect.

Or tell us what school and I'll call lol

What is used for bedding? Food? Bathing? Heat? Light?

They can get mites in a variety of ways...they don't have to come in contact with other animals.
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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bedding she uses newspaper for food purina cat chow. i go to a school for vets and she did take her to a exotic vet and they said no mites and they won't give her medications because she doesn't look in pain. the headgie is very grumpy and her nails are long any suggestions how how to clip them she always pops and makes noises when i hold her and she trys to roll in a ball but she is fat !
we have 2 other hedges and there great ! well one had a sinus infections but she is all better now the vet gave her meds
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Seems like this hedgehog isn't getting the proper treatment

Was a fungus and bacterial test done? They can lose quills from these too.

The paper is dangerous as their urine mixing with the ink is not a good thing and they can get injured from the sharp edges on newspaper.

It sounds like your teacher didn't do much research on the hedgehogs before having them in for care.

If its basic purina cat chow it isn't' a very great food either what are to protein and fat levels?

Since you say the hedgie is always in a ball the hedgehog is not fat hedgehogs can vary in healthy size from 200G to 1000G if they can ball up and don't have fatty legs they likely are not obese.

The hedgehog needs to be examined by an experienced vet if the vet didn't even do a bacterial and fungus check thats worry some

Also a skin scrape can come back negative and it can still be mites if the hedgehog is scratching its likely mites and needs revolution otherwise the other tests should be run

Mites isn't exclusively gotten from other animals any wood elements harbor mites and can give a hedgehog mites.

The hedgehog may also be losing quills due to extreme stress has she always been very defensive? How has she been treated and handled? if this behavior is worse it possible there is a lot wrong as for clipping nails usually a wrist warm bath will get a hedgie to un ball and with two people you might have some luck.
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Please provide as much information as possible from the questions below:

Quote:
- How old is your hedgehog? Please state year plus months as a 3 year 1 month old hedgehog is not the same as a 3 year 11 month old hedgehog.
- How long have you owned your hedgehog?
- Has there been any changes in the 2-3 weeks prior to the symptoms starting, such as, you on vacation, hedgie cared for by someone else, new cage, different cage location etc
- What is the temperature of the hedgehogs cage?
- What is the lighting schedule?

Please add dates that symptoms occurred such as, Aug 11 green poop. August 13 diarrhea plus vomiting

Weight
Do you weigh regularly? If so, how much has hedgie lost or gained over X number of days.

Poop
- normal size and texture, soft but formed, mush, liquid, jelly like
- colour normal, slightly green, very green, bloody
- smell normal, stronger than normal, put you out of the room rank
- Pooping in bed

Urine
normal, dark, bloody, less or more than normal, straining to pee, peeing in bed

Nose
sneezing - wet or dry, frequency, when first waking up, all the time
Mucous - clear liquid, thick clear, coloured
Licking nose?

Breathing
normal, slow, rapid, laboured, wheezing, open or closed mouth,

Eating
- normally, less than normal, not at all
- How many kibble per day?
- Any difficulty crunching food?
- Has there been a new food or treat recently and if so, how long ago? Was this one time, or given daily?
- Is the water the same as usual? Water intake, less, same, more

Skin
Scratching excessively, frequent, occasional, rarely, frantically
Dry skin small powder like flakes, large flakes, huge sheets of flaking skin
Sores size, location, scabbed or raw
Rash red skin, pin prick size, hives, location
Quills - minor quill loss, massive quill loss, bare spots

Vomiting
mushy food, frothy white, frothy green
How frequent is he vomiting? Is it after eating, drinking, activity or random?

Activity
normal, lethargic, wobbly, tires easily

Meds
- name
- When started
- frequency
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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if her nails are so long she may be in pain walking. hedgehogs are prey animals so they hide pain very well so as to not be vunerable. is the exotic vet there at the school? if so maybe they can help with the nail clipping, but if not you can try putting her in about an inch or so of warm (not hot or cold) water and this will keep her from rolling into a ball and you can then try to clip her nails with baby nail clippers or any will do really if you're careful. it may help to have someone help if possible at first. also if she's had her eyes removed then can you really blame her for being grumpy? hedgehogs (like all prey animal) are always on guard for things that may hurt them and if she can't see anything then she has no idea what is going on so she probably feels threatened all of the time and is scared after all she has been through. you can also put aveeno unscented soap in the water or a sock filled with regular (not instant) oatmeal and that may help with the dry skin a bit if thats whats going on there.
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bedding she uses newspaper for food purina cat chow. i go to a school for vets and she did take her to a exotic vet and they said no mites and they won't give her medications because she doesn't look in pain. the headgie is very grumpy and her nails are long any suggestions how how to clip them she always pops and makes noises when i hold her and she trys to roll in a ball but she is fat !
we have 2 other hedges and there great ! well one had a sinus infections but she is all better now the vet gave her meds
If you do a search in this forum, you will be able to find plenty of tips in how to cut nails! I would suggest switching her bedding to fleece if possible. Also, she should be on a better food. There is plenty of info on that in the diet section. The hedgehog is probably grumpy from being unsocialized or she could be sick and trying to hide it. She is way to fat if she cant roll into a ball! Does she have any way to exercise? A wheel is a necessity. What kind of cage is she in? And how big is it?
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Try this thread for some naughty hedgie nail trim ideas

https://hedgehogcentral.com/forums/vi...=nail+clipping
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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courtney the only thing is she has had her eyes removed. how safe would it be for a blind hedgie to have/use a wheel? i'm sure it's possible just wondering how safe it is anyone with blind hedgie experience any thoughts? i agree she's probably bored without one though and needs one for excercise. i'm just curious if anyone has had experience with a blind hedgie and how they have done with a wheel and if there have been any problems with her getting on and off or whatever?
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Blind hedgehogs do just fine on a wheel. Most blind hedgehogs act no different than sighted hedgehogs.
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