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Old 01-01-2014, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone! I've go my baby now in a cheap/borrowed cage. I ordered Urban Shop Snap-It Plastic Cube Shelving Unit http://www.walmart.com/ip/Urban-Shop...-of-6/20709799 I'm still waiting for it to get here (hurry up shipping!) since it has solid walls I'm not planning on adding the Cloroplast. I'm planning on making fleece liners. Can anyone tell me if you recommend 2x3 squares, or bigger? smaller?
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Do you mean the size of the cage?

I don't actually use C&C, so I don't have a good grasp of the sizes, but I'm pretty sure 2x3 would be epically big and pose a challenge for consistent heating.

As for how big you need... that's going to vary! Some hedgehogs are total explorers and will use the whole space; others are more sedentary (or shy) and rarely go anywhere except the edges, so a cage with internal walls breaking it up is more suitable. Some owners are in the "bigger is better" mindset, others are trying to fit the cage in a confined space. The nice thing about C&C is that you can rebuild as-needed.

Here's a 2011 archive-thread on C&C sizes and construction. Looks like the recommendation is 2x2?
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Personally I would still get coroplast for at least the bottom. Even though they have solid sides, there's still the holes in the corners, and a hedgie could trip on those. In case hedgie decides burrowing under liners is fun, or pees in the corners, or pees under the liners, etc. then you won't have to worry about mess leaking out of the cage either.

At least a 2x2 is best for a minimum size, but 2x3 is at least as popular, if not more. Lily had a 2x2 for a short time, and was quickly upgraded to a 2x3. Once you get them used to it, I don't think the 2x3 is really considered too big in terms of space & hedgie comfort. Lily wasn't much of an explorer, but she enjoyed the size, I think, and ended up taking advantage of it when I started doing our treat hide'n'seek game.

Heating can be difficult sometimes, but the solid squares might make that easier. You'll want two 10" lamps for a 2x3 cage size to make sure the cage is evenly heated. If you get the 1000-watt Zilla thermostat, it has three outlets, so you only have to buy the one thermostat to control both lamps.

What are you going to do for the top? I wouldn't use the solid ones for the top as well as everything else - even with the corner holes, that doesn't leave much for ventilation. And you do want a top on it since if hedgie is an escape artist, she'll easily be able to escape from a C&C cage with no top. It'll also make it easier to heat the cage with a top (you can just set the lamps directly on a wire top).
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I have my hedgehog Tuesday in a 2x3 cubes and coroplast cage. It seems to be plenty big enough for her. I have my coroplast where it's several inches high around the sides of the cage. Where I divided the cage between her and my guinea pigs I just used some cardboard high enough where she couldn't climb over to them.
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For heat I actually use a space heater and keep the whole room between 73 and 80, so I'm not too worried about heat. I hadn't thought of the wholes in the corners. I may need to buy coro before I attempt to put her in it, and I thought if I need to put a top on it I can get the wire cubes to make the top. I'm not sure if she'll be able to climb it though. My understanding of the shelves is more similar to the plastic tubs material. Do they need tops? I keep seeing them open?
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It depends on if she's a determined climber or not - some hedgehogs there's no question about needing a top. They'll escape out of anything & everything & leave their human completely confounded. Some may never make an attempt, then spontaneously decide to go for a jaunt around the house out of nowhere. I know both Nancy & Nikki recommend a top on the cage, no matter what. Nancy once had a 6-week baby climb out of a normal size plastic tub that had nothing in it but food & water bowls - nothing to climb on. Apparently the little guy managed to scale the plastic sides anyway, probably in a corner. So if they're determined...they can probably do it.
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The basis of my cage came in the mail today, and I've got it together! I'm still using puppy pads for a liner. (Because I still have plenty, and it's easy to see what's going on!) The new cage doesn't have a top, I've decided to let her try it out, and see if she's going to even try to get out, before I spend more $$! The one I bought came with 3 triangle pieces, so I'm using them to create ceilings, and hanging fleece walls, so it's darker and more cozy!

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I took more photos, but having trouble uploading them all at once!
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With one of the triangles I made a "kitchen" and with a spare square i made the wheel less drafty. On the other end she has her choice of beds to cuddle in. I'm sorry my phone decided these picture needed to be upside down, and I don't know how to fix them!
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Cage looks very nice! I like the triangle corners (and that might help prevent climbing since the corner would be best place for that) and the fleece curtain idea!
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My only paranoid-parent response is, can you cover the slits/gaps between the panels down low (with a bit of coroplast, or even just tape) to minimize a tiny hedgehog-limb getting stuck in it during an escape-attempt?
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