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Jackalop3 04-26-2019 06:14 PM

I need help
 
So with my current set up with my hedgehog, Ive got her in a large plastic container, with her litter and wheel in the main compartment and her sleeping area off in another compartment. I made the set up for her when she was 7 weeks. She's almost a year old now and she's already starting to grow much larger than the cage i designed can hold her, she can still move around but its not the amount of space she needs now that she's almost fully grown. I was looking around amazon for some cages and I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/Petsfit-Rabbi...VTCS1E0CQ66J0G

Now I know it doesn't have the right amount of space for her wheel but I'm fully prepared to add on the cage to give her a a yard to keep the wheels and some toys. With some other modifications I think it would work perfect for her.

BUT I have a slight problem, as I'm reading the material list I'm noticing the cage is made up of Cedar. Which I know the shaving are toxic to small animals. Would having the building be made out of cedar have the same effects on my hedgehog as the wood shaving or would it be ok.

If it does pose a threat to her health, does anyone have any ideas for other cages that don't have such a "cage feel" & even a second story would be nice as well, to give her some extra space to walk around and explore. In other words a cage that isn't so traditional with the ugly wiring and such. That's part of the reason that the cage I'm thinking about buying became so appealing in the first place.

Thanks for the help! :D

Aj.t 04-26-2019 08:58 PM

Hey there! I’d like to hear from someone else as well on the cedar planks... I’ve always been under the assumption that the chemicals they use to treat the wood when processing the shavings are what’s bad for animals, but it could potentially have something to do with the wood itself. I was looking at the enclosure though at it’s a decent size and shape, and with slight modifications if you’re into DIY, could be a really nice looking enclosure. I saw another if you scroll down the page and look at the ‘recommended’ it was a more gray looking house for only 99.99... it was thinner by like half an inch but still nice and cheaper.

https://www.chewy.com/midwest-guinea...YaAtYOEALw_wcB

That is the link to the enclosure I use, the Midwest guinea habitat. I like it because it’s simple yet gives ample living space and it’s easy to maintain. I know it does have the wire cage look, but it’s something to consider.

Another point is that hedgehogs aren’t a climbing animal by nature, so some won’t even try to climb ramps to access a second level. Every hedgehog is different, but I just wanted to let you know of the possibility of him not using it.
Hope this helps 🙂

belties 04-26-2019 10:44 PM

The toxic problem comes from the oil that is naturally acurring in the wood. It can cause some very bad reactions with some animals. We tried cedar shavings in our dog kennel and the female and the puppies lost most of their hair in two days.

Aj.t 04-26-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by belties (Post 1073078)
The toxic problem comes from the oil that is naturally acurring in the wood. It can cause some very bad reactions with some animals. We tried cedar shavings in our dog kennel and the female and the puppies lost most of their hair in two days.

then yeah I would advise against the cedar enclosure even if the wood is towards the outside of it as your hedgehog could still come in contact with it

Emc 04-26-2019 11:29 PM

A cage made of cedar is perfectly safe, and there is absolutely no reason to avoid it.

The issue with cedar shavings is primarily related to the dust; the dust particles are also potentially hazardous to human health. Another issue is the high levels phenols - why pine and cedar smell so intense. This is irritating to your animals respiratory system, and is known to cause issues, i.e; upper respiratory infections.

Houses (and enclosures) made from cedar are safe. Reason being; the surface area is smaller (as it is solid), and the issue of dust particles is removed. So, the cage is safe - but shavings are not.

I’ve kept hamsters over a decade, and am all too familiar with the world of safe and unsafe building supplies haha.

Aj.t 04-26-2019 11:34 PM

https://www.hedgehogcentral.com/forums/#/topics/96930
Here’s another quick thread for this; I was trying to find another

Jackalop3 04-27-2019 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Emc (Post 1073082)
A cage made of cedar is perfectly safe, and there is absolutely no reason to avoid it.

The issue with cedar shavings is primarily related to the dust; the dust particles are also potentially hazardous to human health. Another issue is the high levels phenols - why pine and cedar smell so intense. This is irritating to your animals respiratory system, and is known to cause issues, i.e; upper respiratory infections.

Houses (and enclosures) made from cedar are safe. Reason being; the surface area is smaller (as it is solid), and the issue of dust particles is removed. So, the cage is safe - but shavings are not.

Iíve kept hamsters over a decade, and am all too familiar with the world of safe and unsafe building supplies haha.

Ok that's relieving, its always good just to make sure that my hedgie isnt going to get hurt by the cage. Thanks for helping get that all cleared up :D

Jackalop3 04-27-2019 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aj.t (Post 1073070)
I use, the Midwest guinea habitat. I like it because itís simple yet gives ample living space and itís easy to maintain. I know it does have the wire cage look, but itís something to consider.

Another point is that hedgehogs arenít a climbing animal by nature, so some wonít even try to climb ramps to access a second level. Every hedgehog is different, but I just wanted to let you know of the possibility of him not using it.
Hope this helps 🙂

Wow yea that's a good point that never even occurred to me. I'll definitely have to do some experimenting to make sure the climbing aspects would work out for her. And, looking back the cage you posted, even though its not my preferred style, that could totally work and it has all the space for her. I'll definitely have to continue my research and look further into it.:-D

Aj.t 04-27-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackalop3 (Post 1073090)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aj.t (Post 1073070)
I use, the Midwest guinea habitat. I like it because it’s simple yet gives ample living space and it’s easy to maintain. I know it does have the wire cage look, but it’s something to consider.

Another point is that hedgehogs aren’t a climbing animal by nature, so some won’t even try to climb ramps to access a second level. Every hedgehog is different, but I just wanted to let you know of the possibility of him not using it.
Hope this helps 🙂

Wow yea that's a good point that never even occurred to me. I'll definitely have to do some experimenting to make sure the climbing aspects would work out for her. And, looking back the cage you posted, even though its not my preferred style, that could totally work and it has all the space for her. I'll definitely have to continue my research and look further into it.[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.hedgehogcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif[/IMG]

One tip too is just to re angle the ramp so that it’s not as steep. Some hedgehogs won’t even try to climb if the ramp is too steep. And adding a textured lining to the ramp helps them catch a grip.


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