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Old 01-20-2013, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is quite a long read, and I'm not entirely certain if I'm posting this in the right place on the forums, but it's something that has to be done. I need answers, and this is the best place I know of to seek advice.

Roughly a month ago, I found an advertisement on "Kijiji", which is essentially the Canadian version of Craigslist. The ad was for a man selling a supposedly 'salt and pepper' African Pygmy hedgehog that was around five months old, with no further details. There was no picture attached, no nothing. Just the price ($100), and a telephone number. Being that I'm only 14 and quite anxious when talking to strangers, I had my mother call the number provided. She spoke to the man who posted the ad. He stated that he had purchased the hedgehog and had her shipped from a breeder in Toronto for his daughter, but that his daughter was moving and could not afford to travel with the hedgehog, so he was selling it. Nothing was offered along with her, other than her wheel, food and water bowls, and a pet carrier. We accepted this, as he had offered to keep her until we could travel the four hours to pick her up, which was on the 14th of January. We made other arrangements to get a decently-sized guinea pig cage second-hand. I will be replacing this cage with a bigger one when I can afford it, if necessary, so no worries there.

In early January, not long before we drove to get her, my mother called the man a second time, to ask for more specific information. This included the brad of cat food that she was on, the type of wheel that they purchased, etc. The man's wife answered, and she provided a completely different side of the story. Apparently, she had paid $70 for the wheel when ordering it online, which I saw as utter bull. I have searched the internet and haven't found a wheel even close to that price. Not only that, but she brought up a heating pad that she would sell alongside the cage, for another $25. She mentioned the heating pad having to be plugged into an outlet, meaning that, as far as I know, it was not able to have been safely left in the hedgehog's cage. I presume that the lady was attempting to get another $50 out of me, despite the fact that her Kijiji ad stated that the wheel would be given away for free, to the person who purchased the hedgehog, and did not mention a heating pad. I did not have that $50, and could get my own wheel for far cheaper, so I politely declined her offer. This did not sway my decision to buy her.

On the 14th, I did indeed travel with my parents to collect my new friend. What I saw was honestly shocking. The home that they lived in was an impossibly tiny single-story, and the three of them apparently lived there with the hedgehog, a cat, and an Italian mastiff, which was honestly the biggest dog I've ever seen. The living conditions were not ideal, and as far as I could see, everything in the house was filthy, especially the cat carrier that they gave us to bring the hedgehog home in, which was covered in crumbs, dust, stains, and other unknown substances. It looked awful enough that rather than leave her in the carrier, I kept her wrapped in a blanket and placed on my lap, for the duration of the trip. I will also mention that the hedgehog was not a "salt and pepper", like they claimed, and instead looks to me like a chocolate, although a brown or a grey is also possible. She was nervous and clearly hadn't been handled as much as she should have. The only thing that I found acceptable regarding her care, was the food that she was on, and that's because it was one of the best foods that I've seen on the market. Innova Prime grain free adult cat food.

As though the location wasn't appalling enough, the individuals that we bought her from have also told us quite a few lies. When we went there, we talked to the teenage daughter who originally owned her, who said that she was getting rid of her because she would rather have a guinea pig, which explains the lack of a cage. She mentioned absolutely nothing about moving. The man stated that she was litter trained, but didn't give us a litter box or inform us of the type of litter box that she had been using. She rarely uses the litter box, and instead prefers to do her business outside of the cage, whenever she gets a chance. They also didn't give us the name of the breeder from which they got her, and they didn't offer any information regarding her lineage, including her parents. I did not mind this as much as some people would, simply because I do not plan on doing the irresponsible thing and breeding her. I just want her to have a long, happy, and healthy life. However, when I got her home, I noticed that she has some patches near her head where no quills have grown. Or, at least, where no quills are, at present. This leads me to believe that she could indeed be sickly, much to my dismay.

This is where things get a bit fishy.

After picking her up, we traveled to PetSmart, in order to pick up some more of her cat food (the previous owners couldn't provide any, as they had a cat as well), bedding, treats, so on and so forth. At PetSmart, we were stopped various times by people asking to pet her, and talking about how stunned they were that we had one. I later learned why, from a lady at the check-out. Apparently, in order to own and to have a hedgehog imported to my area (Newfoundland, Canada), you require a permit. This had not been written in the ad, the man had not disclosed that information, and so now we may have a hedgehog illegally. We don't know for certain, because when I called the local wildlife specialist to ask them what pets were and weren't allowed, the line was busy. I intend to keep trying for an answer, but I can only assume that they woman at PetSmart was telling the truth. This brings a lot of questions to mind, regarding where she really came from, because I don't know of any breeders who would be willing to send an animal illegally, and these people did not seem like the type to pay for a permit to keep an animal, and then sell her to somebody else for such a low price.

Has anybody heard about something similar to this in the past? Are there any other hedgehog owners from Newfoundland on the forums, whom I could speak with, to confirm or deny my beliefs? Any help is appreciated!
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Be careful. I don't know the rules where you are, but have heard stories about hedgies in Pennsylvania (where it's illegal to have them), who have been seized from their owners and then hedgie is no more. I'll hope the authorities where you are are better than folks in PA... but I did need to put out there that it's possible that, by contacting them, you'll initiate a death sentence for this hedgehog if they are illegal.

Best I could find quickly is on https://hedgehogcentral.com/illegal.shtml which didn't list Newfoundland.

I think someone in Canada might have a better handle on how to proceed - maybe Nancy??? Try and PM her.



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I noticed that she has some patches near her head where no quills have grown. Or, at least, where no quills are, at present. This leads me to believe that she could indeed be sickly, much to my dismay.
If you're looking at her head and the spot where there are no quills forms something like a reverse mohawk (ie, no quills running in a line from the front to the back of her head right along the top where a mohawk would normally be, but there are quills to either side of that blank space) that's totally normal.
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If a permit is the only thing needed though, it seems like authorities would be more understanding as long as they're going through the proper hoops to own the hedgehog legally. I've PMed a couple of people that might be able to help you more, including Nancy. I'm not sure who would be the right people to contact for information about legality and permits, so they might know more.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm worried, because it seems like there's a small patch further down on her head where there are no quills. I'm really hoping that you only need a permit in the city, which was suggested by another worker at PetSmart. We live in a small town, so if that's the case, it should be okay. Regardless, I plan on doing my best to get my hands on a permit. I've gotten so attached to my little one in the six days that I've had her, I can't imagine what I would do if anything happened to her.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's certainly sounding like good news if it's just a "get a permit" situation. I noticed, in another section, Nancy had posted a place where one could list vets in Newfoundland - I'd like to believe that helps suggest all will be well for your little one.

Is there a way you might be able to post a pic of your hedgie's bald spot?
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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She just went to sleep (rather grumpily) after I had taken her out for a while, but I can definitely take one, later!

I'm hoping it's nothing, because it's not a very big spot. Just enough to make me worry.
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I really don't know anything for certain about Newfoundland. I've heard both that a permit is required and also that it isn't. I'm betting it depends on the municipality. I suggest phoning your local City Hall and asking.

I may know some more details about the hedgehog. Do you know the name of the daughter or the parents? If so, pm me it. Also, do you have a picture of the hedgehog?
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