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Old 11-10-2012, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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okay so i took Dallas to the vet a while back and he WOULD NOT come out of a ball, so of course the vet got these gloves ( which are the kind you use to hold eagles/ owls etc) and they were covered in hair and stuff, and it was gross, and of course he still wouldnt come out so i said " run some warm water in the sink and he will come out when we put him in it." I trusted that she would remember the key part of that sentence "warm" water ended up being cold, he came out but then i was thinking " what kind of vet are you?! i said warm not ice cubes." so he did come out but only for a while then i put him back into a towel and dried him off. she didnt try a skin scrape or look him over or try to either, didnt even mention it. and she said he was huge, she had clearly only seen really young ones or Dallas is a giant ( which im sure he isnt) and said that he should have come out, well really? would you have? probably not. so i want to socialize him with strangers but the problem with that is, my mom is scared of him, my dad broke his shoulder today ( smart right?) and my sisters dont want anything to do with them ( hailey took oliver back today then as soon as i said his cage needed cleaning she told me to sell him... i was surprised by that, hes still living with us though. not leaving.) so what do i do? i will defiantly be getting a better vet thats for sure, and try to socialize him but im not very social either so i dont usually have friends over or anything, and id be afraid to take him to my school, like what if he had to use the bathroom? or my classrooms wouldnt let him in, i cant just be like " okay, just let me go and put him in my locker." my locker is cold enough that if you leave water in it from the moment you get to school to when the last bell rings, its still cold. so im just sort of miffed on what to do here.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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any suggestions?
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I wouldn't bring your hog to school. I don't know if the rules are different in Canada then the USA, but I know here the only animals allowed are service animals.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think your vet just doesn't have a clue about hedgy's and you sound alot like me when it comes to not having friend's over ect...so it looks like it's up to you to be his socializer, which is just fine. I take Percy to work with me and he doesn't want to socialize with anyone there and just likes to sleep in his pouch. Maybe the next time your at the vets take some treats with you or a few mealie worms to help him warm up into coming out of a ball. Cold water was a ridiculous idea on the vets part. As long as he's ok with you, that's all that really matters. School would probably be the worse place to take him with all the noise and especially if it's cold. He'd be much happier at home.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ya,I wouldnt dream of taking him to school, I'd be afraid someone would hurt him and it is only service animals, thats it.

And as for treats and mealies, I don't know what he likes and last time I had mealies they were freeze dried and he hated them
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Basically you need a different vet or you need to voice your concerns with the current vet and hope you can work something out. If you look for a new vet ask what you can expect from the appointment, they should be able to give you an idea of the what the vet will do and how.

For hedgehogs that won't come out of a ball my vet gives them a little gas to make them sleepy and then examines them. This is also useful in case he finds anything that needs to be taken care of, like removing fatty tissue bumps, infected teeth, or dealing with injuries. Usually it works like this: I'm let into the exam room and the tech asks me to put my hedgehog on the scale, she records the weight and I handle my hedgie while we wait for the vet, the vet comes in and talks to me about the hedgehog and we go over general health stuff, diet, behaviour, and specific concerns. The vet may attempt to handle my hedgehog a little and if we are there for something specific get a quick look at the area in question. Then he goes to prep the exam area (which is in the back because they have to put them under the gas) the tech comes back and takes my hedgehog away in a little fleece bag, when the vet is done the exam I get a sleepy hedgehog back and we wait for the vet to come and talk to us again. Sometimes if we're lucky the vet gives my hedgehog a nail trim while he's under the gas and my hedgehog may get a treat when he wakes up enough.

I find the gas method very effective, it just saves everyone time and saves the hedgehog the stress of being poked and prodded and forced to be open also often there are other things that need to happen under the gas anyway. The last two times I was at the vet Koloth had to have a tooth removed and the tip of his toe removed due to an injury he would have to go under the gas for those things anyway and although the vet was able to do part of the exam while Koloth was awake he needed to put him under the gas to get a look in his mouth.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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That's an idea, but i do not think that I'd trust the vet to do that, I'd be worried she would give him too much gas and I would get a forever sleeping hedgehog back. I will be looking around for another vet, I'll try tomorrow, idk if they will be open though.
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Sounds like you are doing the right thing by finding a different vet. All vets are NOT created equally, and anytime you feel like you are getting bad vibes...stick with your instincts, and find another if necessary.

Perhaps for socialization you could take him to the park if its warm out, and kids LOVE animals...just introduce him slowly and to older children. I'd suggest bringing sanitizer if you go out in public, for each person before adn after. Sometimes adults will come up and want to learn about odd critters too. Other places you might be able to socialize him would be at a clean, pet-friendly store. I like to go into farm supply stores because they are usually SUPER pet friendly, my friend will even bring is 9 foot burmese python to visit! I've seen dogs, cats, parrots, you name it at those stores.
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The first vet I took my boys to didn't even try any techniques to get Watson to uncurl, she just instantly whisked him away to gas him for his exam, which I really wasn't okay with. While putting a hedgehog under to examine them can be done safely, any time it's done there is always a risk of complications (since hedgies are such small animals and it's easy to overdose) and it seems like such an uneccesary risk just to do a quick exam. I think unless there are specific issues that need to be addressed that make it necessary, then sure. But for a general health check I'm just not comfortable with the idea.

So you are lucky to at least have a vet wiling to listen to you. But the rest of the treatment doesn't sound ideal. So if you're not feeling comfortable, shop around. Or if you can't find a different vet, make sure you are very clear and in charge when you visit this one.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i will, stores are still closed today because of the weather so I'll call around tomorrow.
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