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Old 11-30-2011, 07:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can someone explain to me how important it is to find a breeder that participates?
I emailed a breeder nearby and asked her several questions, and my first question was if she knows the lineages of all her babies. All she responded with was: "I choose not to participate in the IHR. Kymwana is probably a better choice as I know she does."
This only confirms that I need to go to Kymwana as my first instinct told me, but I'm just a bit curious.
Sorry if this is the wrong section for this question as well, I'm not sure where it fits in..
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I should clarify that I'm only asking because originally I thought IHR was to protect against WHS and other misbreeding mistakes, but she gives a guarantee against all of this, so I'm just wondering why she wouldn't be apart of it if she's sure (and promises to pay back any customers that come up with these problems).
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You don't have to be a member of the IHR to know your hog's lineage... so that's kind of confusing to me?

I'm not a breeder, but I'm pretty sure knowing lineage is most important when it comes to preventing hogs from getting Wobbly Hedgehog Syndrome later in life. One of your first questions for a breeder should be if they know that 4-5 generations of the hedgehog's "family" were WHS-free. If they do, that's a great sign. Being a member of the IHR isn't a necessity if they are running their breeding operation in a responsible, knowledgeable manner.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The IHR is just a database of lots of hedgehogs' pedigree. Some breeders don't register their hedgies because it takes forever for the person in charge to actually do it and get back to you. It helps motivate people to keep good pedigrees, but is not really any better than just keeping your own. The other breeder probably just doesn't want to deal with the hassle and does the work herself.



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Ditto with what LizardGirl has said. While I strongly believe all hedgehogs should be registered because really that is the only way to track lineages with WHS or other problems, but many breeders have simply given up trying to get a response from the registry.

Regardless of a breeder registering or not, they still should know the lineages of all their hedgehogs.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My boyfriend and I are using Kymwana. :] She was great and so helpful when Nick called her with questions!

We looked at one other breeder in the same town as us (Port Orchard, WA) and that breeder's website was lacking some information, including any info/photos of the breeding males and females. When I emailed asking some questions about the hedgie parents/lineages and a few other details, the reply we got gave no answers, but just said: "I do not believe that I have what you are looking for."

It seems like IHR registration isn't hugely important, but if a breeder can't or isn't willing to supply information about the parents/lineages, that's a huge red flag.
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There are alot of good breeders who don't even bother with the IHR myself included. I have pedigree software and know the linage of all my hogs.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My boyfriend and I are using Kymwana. :] She was great and so helpful when Nick called her with questions!

We looked at one other breeder in the same town as us (Port Orchard, WA) and that breeder's website was lacking some information, including any info/photos of the breeding males and females. When I emailed asking some questions about the hedgie parents/lineages and a few other details, the reply we got gave no answers, but just said: "I do not believe that I have what you are looking for."

It seems like IHR registration isn't hugely important, but if a breeder can't or isn't willing to supply information about the parents/lineages, that's a huge red flag.
Funny, we're talking about the same breeder here...I'm staying clear away from her, then. She doesn't seem to want to talk to customers while Kym answered quickly and answered every single one of my questions.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that got a snappy reply back. I'll be using Kymwana for sure then. Thanks!

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The IHR is just a database of lots of hedgehogs' pedigree. Some breeders don't register their hedgies because it takes forever for the person in charge to actually do it and get back to you. It helps motivate people to keep good pedigrees, but is not really any better than just keeping your own. The other breeder probably just doesn't want to deal with the hassle and does the work herself.
Good to know...thank you all! I'll be using someone else anyway, as this breeder doesn't seem to want to give up some information I'd really like to know. A couple people thought before she could be a backyard breeder, and I'm starting to agree.
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Funny, we're talking about the same breeder here...I'm staying clear away from her, then. She doesn't seem to want to talk to customers while Kym answered quickly and answered every single one of my questions.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that got a snappy reply back. I'll be using Kymwana for sure then. Thanks!
We were pretty set on Kymwana from the start, but I was curious about the other one since she's right in our town. (The 'christmas babies' being advertised are really questionable, too.) I can say with conviction that Kymwana is the right choice, and we haven't even gotten our hedgie from her yet! :]
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Funny, we're talking about the same breeder here...I'm staying clear away from her, then. She doesn't seem to want to talk to customers while Kym answered quickly and answered every single one of my questions.
Glad to see I'm not the only one that got a snappy reply back. I'll be using Kymwana for sure then. Thanks!
We were pretty set on Kymwana from the start, but I was curious about the other one since she's right in our town. (The 'christmas babies' being advertised are really questionable, too.) I can say with conviction that Kymwana is the right choice, and we haven't even gotten our hedgie from her yet! :]
Yeah, as soon as I saw that I started to question it. Kymwana's site is pretty bad, and I wished Bloomin' would be the right choice, just because it was easier to navigate, but it's obvious to me now that Kym is definitely the best choice. I obviously haven't got mine yet either...but I'm so excited!
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